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Originally Posted by Gnadenburg
(Post 10204949)
The Phillipines is a basket case of military ineptitude, corruption and political expedience. The President is unstable which is why the massive ex US Luzon bases are pretty much still dilapidated.
Indonesia is a double-edged sword. Their forecast GDP growth is quite massive so their own self-funded build up inevitable. I'm guessing ties will be warm but cautious. |
When it comes to protecting Australian shores other countries have always provided the battlefields. New Zealand,Sudan,South Africa,Turkey, Middle East Belgium,France, Russia, North Africa, Greece,Crete,Malaysia,Singapore,Burma,Indonesia (Dutch East Indies),Papua New Guinea, Pacific Islands,Korea,Borneo,Vietnam,East Timor,Iraq,Afghanistan. They are just the land battles and there will be countries I have missed. I think Australian defense analysts and planners have a firm idea of what part the Indonesian archipelago will play in any future conflict.
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I'm not sure what you are suggesting HH? Australia fund an Indonesian military rebuild? I'd be pretty sure a lot of our aid is sensibly going into CT ?
It's not as simple as you suggest. The Indonesians buy some Chinese weapons too and their China policies still seemingly fluid. Even aiding the logical build up of Indonesian maritime and air bases in Kalimantan say, would be complicated considering the Malaysians. Back to the F35 and the ADF. I'm guessing that more tankers are on the cards in the medium term as the ADF is pressed toward more long range surveillance and intelligence support to the north. |
Originally Posted by Eaglet
(Post 10202804)
Kind of reminds me of American attitudes with the cannon-less F-4 phantoms going into the Vietnam war citing only missiles were needed in modern day dogfighting. Of course they had to subsequently fit F-4s with cannons after realizing inferior MiG-17s were putting up a good fight(of course there were other factors too).
Anyway for the sake our tax-dollars I really hope I'm wrong. The F-4E was credited with 21 MiG kills during the war. 10 of these were brought down by Sparrows, five with gunfire, four with Sidewinders, one with a combination of Sidewinder and gunfire, and one while maneuvering (no weapons being fired). However, most combat missions flown in Vietnam by the F-4E were ground-attack missions. FYI. |
Originally Posted by gileraguy
(Post 10205363)
from joe.baugher.com:
The F-4E was credited with 21 MiG kills during the war. 10 of these were brought down by Sparrows, five with gunfire, four with Sidewinders, one with a combination of Sidewinder and gunfire, and one while maneuvering (no weapons being fired). However, most combat missions flown in Vietnam by the F-4E were ground-attack missions. FYI. |
The cost of the F-35 is crap. I flew with a guy...his Brother in Law works for Martin Marietta, where they make SOME of the F-35. He said if they made the WHOLE AIRCRAFT in their factory, it would only cost about 25% of what the US is paying per copy.
Pure corruption. I really hate it when taxpayer money is wasted!!! |
I’m inclined to agree, however the evolving requirements of the US Defense department as it progressed through development (before the design freeze) added cost upon cost, and the fact the standard version is subsidizing the STOVL version and its protracted development, and the fact that the initial batches have to cover the enormous development and design costs, which is exacerbated by some buyers reducing their order sizes...all factors into the unit cost being far in excess of the actual value of the materials |
I flew with a guy...his Brother in Law works for Martin Marietta, where they make SOME of the F-35. He said if they made the WHOLE AIRCRAFT in their factory, it would only cost about 25% of what the US is paying per copy. (PS. I don't disagree that these things are hideously expensive.) |
Report that today an RAAF fast jet had an engine failure on approach to land at Darwin, with the pilot jettisoning the aircraft external fuel tank whilst in flight. If this was one of our new F-35's it would have been a case of the pilot jettisoning himself and not the fuel tank.
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Originally Posted by gulliBell
(Post 10210076)
Report that today an RAAF fast jet had an engine failure on approach to land at Darwin, with the pilot jettisoning the aircraft external fuel tank whilst in flight. If this was one of our new F-35's it would have been a case of the pilot jettisoning himself and not the fuel tank.
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Originally Posted by gulliBell
(Post 10210076)
Report that today an RAAF fast jet had an engine failure on approach to land at Darwin, with the pilot jettisoning the aircraft external fuel tank whilst in flight. If this was one of our new F-35's it would have been a case of the pilot jettisoning himself and not the fuel tank.
Nice try. :ok: |
Cool...dead stick an F-16 to the runway...scurrilous initial news reporting!
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Originally Posted by Pera
(Post 10210094)
It wasn't RAAF, it was single engine and the pilot didn't eject. Thanks for your input but perhaps know what you're talking about next time.
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Originally Posted by gulliBell
(Post 10210127)
I didn't make the report, i just reported the report as reported in the media.
http://archive-server.liveatc.net/yp...2018-0200Z.mp3 Enjoy. |
Originally Posted by gulliBell
(Post 10210127)
I didn't make the report, i just reported the report as reported in the media.
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Originally Posted by gulliBell
(Post 10210076)
Report that today an RAAF fast jet had an engine failure on approach to land at Darwin, with the pilot jettisoning the aircraft external fuel tank whilst in flight. If this was one of our new F-35's it would have been a case of the pilot jettisoning himself and not the fuel tank.
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Well, if it's "serious questions" we're posing, I'll chuck my "serious question" in also - what other fighter aircraft have a "defence / capability" "against bird ingestion or FOD?"
(Apart from the Mig 29) Serious question! (Not really...) |
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