What sort of ‘contactability’ will they want?

Nothing less than indentured servitude will be entertained !
And your first born for the academy as a sweetener !

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I dont know how it works at QF but at Jetstar if you are on standby from 3am to 3pm you have to be contactable. It can work in your favour though if an over zealous crewing officer rings you at 02:58 and you politely inform them that they have interrupted your rest and will require another 10hours.

That's not the type of contactability they are looking for. Try "we know you have 4 days of 4 sector (with 2,3 or 4 aircraft changes) 11:45 duty hours , but we just need to do one an extra one 4 sector day on that following available day as well" without the ability to refuse.

In short, they want the ability to base everything on a low base pay for superannuation, with a high hourly rate, but the inability to refuse to be assigned additional work beyond you normal roster allocation. Forced overtime that would approach 100% of base pay. Oh, and if they then cancel the flying, no pay.

You could call the current agreement a consent agreement, whereby anything over the minimum could be refused by either party. Contactability would hand the company the ability to assign additional flying without consent, ie create a new obligation on pilots to operate above minimum guarantee at the companies pleasure, without a reciprocal obligation to pay for cancellation. I suspect they will attempt to argue that superannuation should still only be based on base wage.

The creation of a new obligation would be very unpopular and require extraordinary compensation.

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The 737 is a great, fun aircraft to fly. The people on it are fantastic. Sadly, for me, it is the biggest financial and lifestyle mistake I made in my career. 7 years on it, and still no closer to a window seat on a widebody. We are getting flogged, and the award is rubbish. If I had my time again, I would have stayed on the 380

What are you talking about? It’s not like that at all. You are always rostered above minimum, and you are required to fly it. You can also be assigned above that, if you have available days, and you are required to fly that too.

I don’t understand your comment.

Contactability is merely a requirement to answer the phone when at home, outside of reserve. Long Haul have certain home contactability requirements. Short Haul don’t. That’s the only difference.

Contactability would presumably be a necessary tradeoff for any pay protection. Short Haul survives without contactability because pilots have an incentive to chase lost flying (or don’t get paid!). Introduce pay protection, and suddenly it’s the Company that needs to chase lost flying, hence required contactability. Simples.

Along with that you lose the inviolate days off. Say goodbye to your son’s birthday you successfully bid off.

The 737 needs a MDC that is conputed on a daily basis, not a pairing average. Long haul needs this too to eliminate those six day trips that contain four sectors.

I am an advocate of a duty/ flight time ratio in the vicinity of 1.75:1. For each 7 hrs of duty 4 hours flight credit is the minimum pay.

If you make the option for stupid scheduling too expensive it will disappear pretty damned quickly.

As far as min monthly credit...why not make it a rolling average of the previous six months? Or something more typical like 75 or 80 hrs? I like the rolling average because it has a built in disincentive to under crew.

I am also astonished that unions don't make pay freezes conditional on no exec bonuses for five years or instant claw-back. That infamous freeze we took a while back has been all eaten up in C-suite bonuses since then. Still feel valued?

Me neither.

^^^^^^^ This.

Astonished? We should be, but I am certainly not myself. Any suggestion that management bonuses should be frozen along with pilot salaries would be met with such a huge legal battle, no union could afford to fight it.

That's not where you fight battles like that. You hold them up to public ridicule. Public scorn is effective when orchestrated correctly. None of us even know who their lawyers are but we all know Olivia because she is their most effective weapon.

Where is our Olivia?

Agree with most of what you say here. However re-calculate that "High" hourly rate on your Duty hours and not Credit hours, it suddenly doesn't seem so high.

Nice in theory Australopithecus but the public would see it as one bunch of overpaid A-holes arguing over money with another bunch of overpaid A-holes.

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Yeah. I resemble that remark:p

i guess the CEO will do whatever the board allows him. I wonder if there is any burning desire to try that lock-out caper again? You have to wonder about intentions if they are trolling social media already. Something to ponder while I re-read “The art of war”

Lots of willing and able CNs and FOs over in the ME3 ready to work for QF on a direct entry basis.

It’s been good enough for QF guys and gals to do that at other carriers while on LWOP.

How close are you to a command then on the 737?

Ohh I can’t wait to see them bite at this

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East Coast, based on the number of slots awarded last year and the number of people ahead of me bidding for it from my last LOP snapshot, at least 7 years.
15 years seniority.

Those other carriers are still taking DECs, or are they not that willing or able?