Let’s not get too excited now..... I think the troops MAY speak otherwise.

Anyway, back to the topic.

So let me get this right...a JQ A320 Capt gets more money and better lifestyle than a QF 737 Capt. Funnily enough the MOU QF boys and girls that came to JQ for their 120 odd commands used to say otherwise....probably why most went back.

Someone is wrong.

Anyway the JQ pilots will be happy to know that they enjoy better lifestyle than their QF cousins.

Perhaps not many of the troops who know both SH and JQ awards first hand.

I’ll take the QF SH Agreement every day.

There is a reason demand for the wide body at JQ is so strong.

The QF guys didn’t go back to have a career on the 737....which is pretty much what they’d have at JQ.

They went back to have a career on different fleet types, more varied flying, better conditions and more lifestyle/work life balance scenarios.

Yeah the 737 guys are getting hammered at QF right now. However it’s not forever. At JQ it is. The 787 is senior, and will be out of reach for most in their career in the left seat. Unless it massively expands. I doubt it.

Something tells me the existing JQ 78s will go to QF while JQ will do some interesting stuff with the 321 NEOs. Time will tell.

So what will it be?
We haven’t even broached the subject of safety degradation in the current climate of uncertainty. Once again safety is thought of somehow isolated from the current narrative.

“Building a workplace culture of high trust and implementing practices that involve employees in solving operational problems are expected to create a conducive climate for negotiating collective bargaining agreements expeditiously and with less need for detailed work rules (Katz, Kochan, and Gobeille 1983). The alternative of maintaining a more traditional adversarial relationship at the workplace risks setting in motion a self-perpetuating low-trust/high-conflict labor-management relationship both in day-to-day workplace relations and in contract negotiations. The evidence from other industries suggests that low trust and high conflict combine to have substantial negative effects on performance outcomes (Ichniowski, Kochan, Levine, Olson, and Strauss 1996)”

As a side note I know of several pilots that have reurned from a J* MOU that probably would have stayed knowing of the current machinations in QF. The only thing that keeps them here is getting into a wide body.

But somehow, Straya is different, for there as none so blind as those that refuse to see.

It most definitely is.

It most definitely is not!

Australian airlines are denying their own mortality.

Or are they......?

the only way to prove this would be for an ‘89 style exodus, driving an experience shortage.

not goanna happen, and the airlines know it.

sorry, just being honest.

The angels are up early today. Morning Arthur. Give my regards to Alan.

That would make so much sense it almost certainly won't happen! JQ being narrow body Airbus only? Lean and streamlined, concentrating on sectors up to 6 hours? Could even look at hubbing out of Darwin to Asia, but do it properly this time!

Never happen...... More likely they'll introduce an extra type to further complicate things

We are talking about aviation aren’t we Arthur

Apologies, I’ll stick to the party line.

Logic is, after all, over-rated.

You couldn't see it happening as it would mean giving up flights such as MEL/SYD-SGN and MEL/SYD-HNL and they wouldn't want to give those sectors to QF would they? So that means two types for JQ international.

It's interesting though, I have friends who travel to DPS on a regular basis and are long time QF FF's and will naturally not fly QF because of the aircraft or JQ because it's just no good (according to them) and therefore only fly Garuda. Would fly QF as a pinch if they had the 787's though.

Other friends have done the Vietnam trip a few times and will only use Vietnam Airlines but would use QF if they went there. I think that those issues/arguments have been done to death though haven't they?

Maybe AJ shouldn’t have passed on that 787 option.

(bloomberg.com/gadfly/articles/2018-03-02/trump-s-just-set-boeing-on-a-collision-course-with-china)

And yes, before anyone chines in, the 787 is only about 20% aluminum but still...