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Keg 13th Dec 2017 20:47

Hrdlicka gone?
 
A mate pointed out to me a media release posted today to the NZ and Australian stock exchanges by A2 Milk indicating that Mrs Hrdlicka is their newly appointed CEO taking up the role at the start of FY19- so presume July 18.

Obviously didn't enjoy working as head of loyalty? Wasn't going to replace AJ? Does anyone recall how long ago that reshuffle happened when she moved on from JQ?

downdata 13th Dec 2017 20:52


Originally Posted by Keg (Post 9989298)
A mate pointed out to me a media release posted today to the NZ and Australian stock exchanges by A2 Milk indicating that Mrs Hrdlicka is their newly appointed CEO taking up the role at the start of FY19- so presume July 18.

Obviously didn't enjoy working as head of loyalty? Wasn't going to replace AJ? Does anyone recall how long ago that reshuffle happened when she moved on from JQ?

Under a Qantas (QAN) management restructure announced in August, Ms Hrdlicka took over the running of the Qantas loyalty business last month after running budget carrier Jetstar for the past five years.

Autobrakes4 13th Dec 2017 20:54

Wow, that's funny. Her last job was head of loyalty. For 4 weeks!!!!!!!!!!!

Keg 13th Dec 2017 21:27

News article here at SMH.

TBM-Legend 13th Dec 2017 21:32

The search is on in Oxford Street for her replacement..

Rated De 13th Dec 2017 21:45

From sources she did not do well at WOW.
Mr Evans is there at JQ to clean up in preparation for among other reasons IFRS16.

He will return to QAN...

UnderneathTheRadar 13th Dec 2017 22:07

dammit - have to find a new brand of milk to drink......

The Green Goblin 13th Dec 2017 22:24

Milk, skincare. Seems to be the path of failed JQ executives.

Lookleft 13th Dec 2017 22:28

What's IFRS16?

I'm not surprised she has gone as it is a big drop in responsibility and prestige to go from being a Group CEO to being EM of a division that I imagine runs itself mostly. I think the HK debacle was her responsibility so from what I can tell if you cost the business a lot of money or damage its reputation, or both, you are eventually replaced.

Qantas 787 13th Dec 2017 23:12

At least she wont be AJs replacement so that is a good thing. Evans is in the box seat now

itsnotthatbloodyhard 13th Dec 2017 23:36


Originally Posted by Lookleft (Post 9989376)
I think the HK debacle was her responsibility so from what I can tell if you cost the business a lot of money or damage its reputation, or both, you are eventually replaced.

Debacle? No, no, no. :=

“Jetstar HK was a big positive for us, because we’ve been able to leverage off our learnings”. :yuk::yuk::yuk::yuk:

Lookleft 13th Dec 2017 23:39

Sorry yes silly me. I haven't been drinking my Kool Aid while reading Yammer lately.:ok:

Willie Nelson 14th Dec 2017 03:20

Far be it for me to run to the defence of management executives but tell me Green Goblin and others who are implying the same:


Originally Posted by The Green Goblin (Post 9989374)
Milk, skincare. Seems to be the path of failed JQ executives.

I'm interested to know what you define as a "failed JQ executive"....really.

With return on capital at Jetstar at the best part of 15 percent including Jetstar Asia, an extremely good safety record and complaints from the rest of us tech crew now focused almost exclusively around rostering issues, it seems passing strange that this period of time would be aptly described as a failure by any objective measure.

If I take my retirement from Jetstar a little earlier than usual and choose to go back to GA at some point that I am therefore defined as a failure?

Or does every decision I ever make have to be seen as a tremendous success and every job I take necessarily bigger and better than the last? That would be a pretty high benchmark for anyone to live by. Perhaps you lot set me straight though.

Airbus A320321 14th Dec 2017 04:11


Originally Posted by Willie Nelson (Post 9989503)
Far be it for me to run to the defence of management executives but tell me Green Goblin and others who are implying the same:



I'm interested to know what you define as a "failed JQ executive"....really.

With return on capital at Jetstar at the best part of 15 percent including Jetstar Asia, an extremely good safety record and complaints from the rest of us tech crew now focused almost exclusively around rostering issues, it seems passing strange that this period of time would be aptly described as a failure by any objective measure.

If I take my retirement from Jetstar a little earlier than usual and choose to go back to GA at some point that I am therefore defined as a failure?

Or does every decision I ever make have to be seen as a tremendous success and every job I take necessarily bigger and better than the last? That would be a pretty high benchmark for anyone to live by. Perhaps you lot set me straight though.

The 'I make sure I'm home every night with my family' quote when here entire workforce is almost exclusively shift workers disengaged the entire workforce.

Appointing GS as chief pilot.

No Neos delivered.

On time performance turned to rubbish.

The J board fiasco.

Her presence at JQ was nothing but a negative.

busdriver007 14th Dec 2017 04:45

Silly Willy- since when has a Low Cost Carrier returned 15%. No Airline in the world returns that! All Airlines need to cease to trade because Jetstar is amazing!

B772 14th Dec 2017 06:44

Lookleft.

IFRS19 comes into effect on 01/01/19. It is a new financial requirement that eliminates most rentals and leases from off balance sheet accounting. This will impact on companies credit ratings, borrowing costs and over gearing. I am confident there may be some major issues for the Qantas Group if the rumours about their accounting practices are true.

blow.n.gasket 14th Dec 2017 07:55

And this financial year , so I’m told , Income streams need to be “ teased from the integrated reporting model “ that Qantas Group has been using .
Should make it easier to discern where the money is actually realised next Financial Year .

Iron Bar 14th Dec 2017 08:08

A320321

Jane took control of the last EA and sorted that real quick when it was a mess.

Surely a good result for pilots? Does the rest really matter?

Airbus A320321 14th Dec 2017 09:09


Originally Posted by Iron Bar (Post 9989690)
A320321

Jane took control of the last EA and sorted that real quick when it was a mess.

Surely a good result for pilots? Does the rest really matter?

Mate, we had to threaten and get approval for industrial action to get that eba done. Jayne didn't take control of sh!t. A competent CEO wouldn't have let it come to that.

Iron Bar 14th Dec 2017 09:41

Yeah she could have stepped in sooner, but I think the enlightening "chat" she had with the Sydney crew (after she took it on) made more of a point than the proposed action. Did that actually get approved in the end, thought it may have been held off for fresh negotiations? Anyway done now.

In my experience she was a no bull**** lady who told it straight.

ExtraShot 14th Dec 2017 09:58


Originally Posted by Lookleft (Post 9989417)
Sorry yes silly me. I haven't been drinking my Kool Aid while reading Yammer lately.:ok:



Wait, you read Yammer?

blow.n.gasket 14th Dec 2017 10:07

Just another carpet bagging , pseudo Manager , absentee landlord shown the door.
Nothing to see , move along now !
The Qantas group is full of them !

Stop ECAM 14th Dec 2017 11:38

"Jane took control of the last EA and sorted that real quick when it was a mess.

Surely a good result for pilots? Does the rest really matter?"

Surely you jest?!?!

I'm lead to believe that after PIA was approved AJ turned up to get things moving. Mind you that was 2 years down the track from the expiry of the last EBA. JH's only response was, according to sources, "there's no more money"! Fooled 70 something % of the drivers who signed up for a 18 month pay freeze and she received over $4M in salary/bonuses. Outlandish for a LCC to pay such gratuity when the constant message is "we have to cut costs".

Looking at QF/JQ finances for 16/17 she received over $8M and now has promptly run away leaving the low cost 'conditions' to those that remain and actually have a long term stake at JQ.

The only interest these managers appear to possess is short-term self interest & not a lot more!

Iron Bar 14th Dec 2017 11:49

Sheez ok ok! You guys will have to find a new brand of milk.

Merlins Magic 14th Dec 2017 19:52


Originally Posted by Iron Bar (Post 9989909)
Sheez ok ok! You guys will have to find a new brand of milk.

You can afford A2 milk? Must be a good EBA😎

Most of us have to buy the Woolworths brand

Popgun 14th Dec 2017 19:57

and of course who can forget the wonderful 'improvements' to staff travel for her JQ minions that she signed off on!

(For those not aware, everyone in the QF group was made equal on JQ aircraft while JQ staff were left remaining as second class citizens on QF aircraft)

PG

Don Diego 15th Dec 2017 05:53

What blow.n.gasket says :ugh:

AEROMEDIC 15th Dec 2017 09:25


he 'I make sure I'm home every night with my family' quote when here entire workforce is almost exclusively shift workers disengaged the entire workforce.
Well, it WAS accepted by Joyce from the outset that she be able to do this.
On the other hand, Jetstar Hong Kong SHOULD have ben operating. Operating a business in China by a foreign entity no matter how many locals you put on the board has always been difficult. Start a business, the Chinese put as many administration obstacles in your way until eventually you give up. You sell "for a song" what is left to get SOMETHING back, and the Chinese move in, employ your business model without the obstacles and reap the rewards. Easy. Although in this case, there's no more a/c.
Perhaps she failed to see how things were done and dug in against them.

Still, the engagement of staff is critical in a successful business and especially in a NEW business and from most reports, she lived in a "different world".

Des Dimona 15th Dec 2017 21:04


she lived in a "different world"
That's an understatement - Under her so called "management", there was a total lack of effective engagement, with personal agendas that effectively compromised and crippled the operational management of Jetstar.

Her decisions had immediate effect, but it will take some time to undo the damage that was inflicted under her leadership.

Jboards, the Chief Pilot experiment etc etc ............:mad:

The list goes on.

Airbus A320321 15th Dec 2017 23:07

[QUOTE=AEROMEDIC;9990913]Well, it WAS accepted by Joyce from the outset that she be able to do this.

If she wanted to work hours at head office that allowed her to pick her kids up from school that's all good, but to gloat about it I'm a newspaper article really wasn't a good move. We all gave her a chance when she started but this was one of many incidents that discredited her with the workforce. Don't let the door hit you on the way out Jayne (real name Carla fyi).

Rated De 16th Dec 2017 06:17

Her less than frank handling of JQ HK cost her. Eyebrows were raised when certain documentation showed exactly who footed the bill.

indamiddle 18th Dec 2017 03:47

She has made a very smart move to a2.
It's a money making machine that keeps on giving.
If she had any damage to her reputation this will restore it.
Come AJ stepping down after the 100 years party (3 or4 years) she will get the job as his replacement with the endorsement of AJ. She was his protege and he would prefer her than Evans to continue his legacy to QF (ffs).
All her negatives posted here are probably a positive from a management point of view but I guess we'll have to wait for AJ to go. I'd be willing to give him a push 💩🙌😢

ebt 18th Dec 2017 23:38

Indamiddle, I very much doubt that will be how it happens. Evans' move from CFO to CEO of International and now to Jetstar says to me very much that he is being primed to take over from AJ. He was the architect of Transformation, and now provided he doesn't f**k up at JQ, will give him experience to both major flying businesses.

JH got something of a demotion going from JQ to Loyalty, and obviously saw it as the prime time to look to greener pastures.

maggot 19th Dec 2017 00:33

What transformation? Nothing transformed apart from some bonuses.

Keg 19th Dec 2017 00:45

.... and the narrative.

ebt 19th Dec 2017 00:53

...ah, but that is all one needs in order to please the shareholders. The narrative is the truth, as far as they are concerned.

maggot 19th Dec 2017 01:23

Well I guess they blew a few hundred million so that's something

Engineer_aus 25th Dec 2017 11:00


IFRS19 comes into effect on 01/01/19. It is a new financial requirement that eliminates most rentals and leases from off balance sheet accounting. This will impact on companies credit ratings, borrowing costs and over gearing. I am confident there may be some major issues for the Qantas Group if the rumours about their accounting practices are true.
So that is why all these JQ A320's are coming off lease and being purchased by QF (Just have to look at the weekly CASA registration reports)

ebt 26th Dec 2017 12:16


Originally Posted by Engineer_aus (Post 10001122)
So that is why all these JQ A320's are coming off lease and being purchased by QF (Just have to look at the weekly CASA registration reports)

The impact will be minimal as Qantas already discloses its lease obligations. They are buying aircraft off-lease as they have the cash on hand already and it improved their credit metrics to have more aircraft on the balance sheet.

Rated De 26th Dec 2017 22:27


The impact will be minimal as Qantas already discloses its lease obligations.
There are subtle differences in the way Qantas currently accounts for and capitalises most of the aircraft. Disclosure of obligation has not been uniform.

This standard (IFRS 16) is a substantial change and will remove many of the distortions


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