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patty50 30th Nov 2017 00:03


Originally Posted by megan (Post 9973723)
Seems various operators are having trouble getting suitable applicants. One operator of single pilot twin turboprops is in dire need of a number of pilots to fill seats, has advertised, got only one reply, from an unsuitable applicant. Looking overseas.


The requirements of some GA jobs are just ridiculous. But of course the answer isn't to train someone, pay for their type rating or negotiate with insurers on lower minimums. It's always look overseas.

Just looking at AFAP and you compare the jobs, some of these people are absolutely dreaming if they expect someone to scroll past a full time jet job with lower minimums than the single engine part time job in the middle of nowhere.

Rated De 30th Nov 2017 00:37

Christmas Crisis: 15,000 American Air Flights Without Pilots Over Holidays Due To "Glitch" | Zero Hedge

Maybe Australian exceptionalism will facilitate a continued race to the bottom. As all Australians know Straya is different!

eukeybound 30th Nov 2017 02:00


Originally Posted by patty50 (Post 9973731)
The requirements of some GA jobs are just ridiculous. But of course the answer isn't to train someone, pay for their type rating or negotiate with insurers on lower minimums. It's always look overseas.

Just looking at AFAP and you compare the jobs, some of these people are absolutely dreaming if they expect someone to scroll past a full time jet job with lower minimums than the single engine part time job in the middle of nowhere.

You'll actually find that the main reasons for the higher minimums are non-negotiable contract requirements for the people chartering the aircraft. Many operators are more than willing to put someone on a new type with far less hours than required by contracts, but when they can't actually service the contracts, it's pointless.

eukeybound 30th Nov 2017 02:04


Originally Posted by boresite (Post 9973070)
Um, by completing a qualified flying instructor's rating?

Neither a FIR or Cert IV in T&A makes you a good instructor. The only good instructors I ever had were the ones who wanted to instruct, for the pleasure of training and teaching new pilots the right skills.

The instructors who got their FIR to build hours from a bare CPL and avoid having to do some real work in NT/WA GA were unfortunately far too easy to pick and nowhere near as easy to avoid. They were also predominately of a much lower standard, both as instructors and pilots.

Derfred 30th Nov 2017 13:57


Originally Posted by eukeybound (Post 9973792)
Neither a FIR or Cert IV in T&A makes you a good instructor. The only good instructors I ever had were the ones who wanted to instruct, for the pleasure of training and teaching new pilots the right skills.

The instructors who got their FIR to build hours from a bare CPL and avoid having to do some real work in NT/WA GA were unfortunately far too easy to pick and nowhere near as easy to avoid. They were also predominately of a much lower standard, both as instructors and pilots.

Maybe having to do a Cert IV will at least punch into their heads that they need to concentrate on training not just hours in the book.

megan 30th Nov 2017 22:54

patty, in the instance cited, the employers training is beyond reproach, and as an outsider I'm staggered at the commitment in that area, equal to any airline.


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