Virgin drops Multi engine requirement for pilot candidates
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Virgin drops Multi engine requirement for pilot candidates
I noticed on the Virgin careers page this week that most of the Pilot positions have dropped the requirement for multi engine time. I think Jet FO requires multi or turbine. This is a big change and to top it off the total time for all positions other than Capt has dropped to 500 hours.
Anyone know why the sudden change? Short of applicants who meet the old mins or just getting with the times?
Anyone know why the sudden change? Short of applicants who meet the old mins or just getting with the times?
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Negative. Plenty meet or exceed the old minimums.
Plus many who exceed the minimums won't return to Australia and it's very high cost of living etc etc under current EBA / T's & C's... why would you when you can be based out of Aust on twice the income (or more); a third the tax; less flight hours and better Ancillary benefits!
Also, a rediculously out of touch, arrogant & procrastinating HR, that doesn't realise the experience of the many candidates they've interviewed already!
Those days of being aloof & picky about who you chose are dead-set gorrrrrrrnnnnn, especially for such a carrier as VA.
Other airlines around the globe made moves to avoid such shortfall in labour supply years ago because they saw the writing on the wall!
Well it's a train wreck coming fast & hard, let me tell you & 457 Visa's 'ain't the answer (coz I know a few fake logbook Capts in there already!!!).
Strap in for the ride and grab some popcorn because this further sideshow, that is Australian Aviation (mis)management is going to get more interesting.
Plus many who exceed the minimums won't return to Australia and it's very high cost of living etc etc under current EBA / T's & C's... why would you when you can be based out of Aust on twice the income (or more); a third the tax; less flight hours and better Ancillary benefits!
Also, a rediculously out of touch, arrogant & procrastinating HR, that doesn't realise the experience of the many candidates they've interviewed already!
Those days of being aloof & picky about who you chose are dead-set gorrrrrrrnnnnn, especially for such a carrier as VA.
Other airlines around the globe made moves to avoid such shortfall in labour supply years ago because they saw the writing on the wall!
Well it's a train wreck coming fast & hard, let me tell you & 457 Visa's 'ain't the answer (coz I know a few fake logbook Capts in there already!!!).
Strap in for the ride and grab some popcorn because this further sideshow, that is Australian Aviation (mis)management is going to get more interesting.
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Well it's a train wreck coming fast & hard
If only the pilots collectively realised supply is limited. IR did such a good job of driving down terms and conditions there are literally not enough qualified pilots.
It isn't just aviation, every industry in the Western world is struggling, from health care to aged care. The retiring demographic isn't replaced with enough workers, it is elementary but somehow pilots will continue trip over themselves thinking they are two economic quarters from the scrap heap!
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Ever wonder why QF are bringing JC aircraft in house again, when all the 'efficiency' was to be had in NZ? Or an implied threat of another subsidiary with jets? Their IR model was predicated on unlimited supply.
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Amen, Rated'
I was still editing my post but you sum it up well, in that it's not the only industry effected and the management model has to change.
I was still editing my post but you sum it up well, in that it's not the only industry effected and the management model has to change.
every industry in the Western world is struggling, from health care to aged care. The retiring demographic isn't replaced with enough workers
That's because the bar to entry is being continually raised.
Used to be EK would not look at an applicant unless they had jet time above 50 tonnes. Now they are happy if you have a pulse and can tell the difference between a boat and an aeroplane.
Virgin dropped their requirements. Other adverts I see seem to have low requirements compared to days gone by.
One of the biggest growth sectors in Australia is in training. This sector of the industry is able to act as a gateway to the jobs that job seekers demand. It is in this industry's interest that formal qualifications are required and they lobby the government for such regulation often to the detriment of society overall
I fear for what the impact on Aviation will be. Flight Instructors in certain roles already need a certificate IV in teaching and assessment.
One of the biggest growth sectors in Australia is in training. This sector of the industry is able to act as a gateway to the jobs that job seekers demand. It is in this industry's interest that formal qualifications are required and they lobby the government for such regulation often to the detriment of society overall
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Perhaps the pool of applicants is not replenished sufficiently due waning supply?
It could be in a time soon enough pilots are considered a strategic asset: The airlines who dispense with their adversarial IR practices the fastest will likely secure supply...
Maybe VA will attract the guys who qlink have had on hold for 12+ months with no start in sight.
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Excuse my potential ignorance on the matter, but considering the impending "shortage", there still seems to be hoards and hoards of low hour pilots lining up and willing to drop $20-25k on MECIR and MCC. Is this extra training likely to become provided by the airlines in the years to come?
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It may not, but I can guarantee that a Cert IV in Training and Assessment does nothing to improve your ability to be a good instructor.
These bullsh!t courses are an expensive hoop jumping exercise that provide extremely limited value.
I believe the term is “self licking ice cream”
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but considering the impending "shortage", there still seems to be hoards and hoards of low hour pilots lining up and willing to drop $20-25k on MECIR and MCC
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There is a whole thread on pilot shortage. It is in Australia as it is elsewhere; structural in nature, not a result of the business cycle and the magnitude of the retirement rate will continue to accelerate.
Whilst not detracting from the comments, VAH may well recognise the early stages of a shortage of suitable applicants. Very hard for an airline to maintain 'cost leadership' where that labour unit cost leadership means they can't effectively generate revenue from their supposed network..
Other adverts I see seem to have low requirements compared to days gone by