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markfelt 21st Nov 2017 21:28

Virgin ATR grounded in Canberra
 
Rumors of a possible hard landing?

Jock p 22nd Nov 2017 06:40

There is an prelim ATSB report on it. Sounds like a bit of bad luck with windshear

TWT 22nd Nov 2017 18:53

https://www.atsb.gov.au/publications...r/ao-2017-111/

SHVC 23rd Nov 2017 01:26

the report might say it's wind shear, let's hope the data backs it up or the training and the check CAPT might have some explaining.

Snakecharma 23rd Nov 2017 02:57

Even if it isnt windshear in the final analysis, there comes a point in the landing where **** just happens and the other pilot cannot rescue it.

Admittedly lots of things are obvious fairly early and intervention earlier rather than later fixes most things, but in windy, choppy conditions sometimes the arse just drops out of it and any intervention by the capt is difficult if not impossible.

Dont know what runway it was in cbr, but the hanger there hasnt made conditions easier in some wind conditions, not an excuse, just an observation.

RightSideUp 23rd Nov 2017 06:35

CBR easterlies at 10-15kts tend to not be windsheary or get the terminal/hangar bumps.....................

Di_Vosh 25th Nov 2017 00:45

Canberra, rwy35 in particular, is one of those approaches and landings that can bite you in the arse very quickly. Certainly not helped by the multi-storey buildings on the west of the runway when the westerlies kick in.

But even with an Easterly wind there can be enough chop to result in having a bad day if you're complacent, especially if you think that


CBR easterlies at 10-15kts tend to not be windsheary or get the terminal/hangar bumps.
Btw, RightSideUp I'm not having a go at you with the above quote, as I have the same opinion. But I've also landed on rwy35 at CBR enough to know that you can get smashed around, and have experienced both positive and negative windshear in almost any weather conditions.

Like Snakecharma said, just my observations.

DIVOSH!

PoppaJo 25th Nov 2017 05:42

10-15kn and the associated damage doesn’t sound right. I’ve been in there weekly for the last decade and understand the point in regards to the built up surrounds and associated terrain challenges but this sounds more like loss of control on late final. How that loss of control became, well who knows. The track record of this operation does not fill me with much confidence.

The real questions need to be put to the regulator. It’s all just Reports and Window dressing. No action is ever taken. Depends what logo is on tail right?

vhtae 28th Nov 2017 07:21

Any more news about -FVZ?

Lasiorhinus 5th Dec 2017 04:48

Probably on its way to Nelson by now...

mates rates 5th Dec 2017 05:34

The damage is pretty severe.It won't be flying any time soon!!

TBM-Legend 5th Dec 2017 07:36

How many ATR’s is this banged up out of a fleet of ??!!!!

blakemc 5th Dec 2017 07:48

Noticed E-jets on the Syd-CBR run too which is odd

SHVC 5th Dec 2017 08:10

There is a lot of damage to the engines and frame, landing was so hard surprised the gear didn't fail.
I bet the guys in Toulouse are glad VA will not be purchasing anymore..

Ken Borough 5th Dec 2017 08:16

If the damage is as bas as claimed, I'm very surprised that there aren't any piccies floating around. How have VA kept the cameras at bay?

Duck Pilot 5th Dec 2017 08:56

Because it’s all probably BS, don’t believe anything you read on this website........

TBM-Legend 5th Dec 2017 11:24


Because it’s all probably BS, don’t believe anything you read on this website........
you could be correct. The Albury ATR issue stayed out of the limelight until a few pics appeared...

brownnotblack 10th Dec 2017 08:02

There are piccies have seen ‘em....the latest but from the ginger beers: “about 2 months 2fix + 7mil$!!!!! Can we post pics on he r?? Allowed too??

brownnotblack 10th Dec 2017 08:31

Mate of mine worked there on atr for a few, apparently lot of instructors left recently n not lot of high time guys left! have seen picccies of this incident, are we allowed 2 post here if i can get?. Wow on this stuff! Anyway latest in circles 2 months out of the air n @ least 7mil repair job, has any1 heard same?

ZFT 11th Dec 2017 06:11


Originally Posted by brownnotblack (Post 9985063)
Mate of mine worked there on atr for a few, apparently lot of instructors left recently n not lot of high time guys left! have seen picccies of this incident, are we allowed 2 post here if i can get?. Wow on this stuff! Anyway latest in circles 2 months out of the air n @ least 7mil repair job, has any1 heard same?

I understood posts should be in English, not text talk?


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