Malindo to fly the Tasman !!!
heard last night from a very reliable source, that Malindo are going trans-Tasman. Don't know which routes, but being Malaysian, they can do it with the bilateral, am told, without any hassles, just like Air Asia X.
Malindo currently fly regularly to Perth & Brisbane, daily to both I think. Can a 737-900ER do Perth/New Zealand ? Wonder which routes ? Surely they would stay away from AKL/CHC/WLG. ZQN perhaps ? |
far out. There are some very high fares to Queenstown in busy periods, much higher than going to Europe or North America. Can they get in & out of ZQN in winter ?
if so, they won't have to be much cheaper than existing airlines into ZQN. |
www.ausbt.com forum might be the go mate.....
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Brisbane Queenstown needs more competition. $1259 return for some dates in August although this high fare probably means flights are very full
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Oh look BNEA320 and TT738 are both online at the same time.
What are the chances the IP Addresses are both the same? --------------------------------------------------------------- Dangling Dunlops From one who can see all IP addresses and has access to IP tracking systems, in respect to BNEA320 and TT738:
The two posts are 21 minutes apart from locations 1,375 kilometers apart. If they were the same person he/she would need to travel at 3,928 KPH between posts. :} They certainly don't appear identical twins from where I sit...... :ok: Tail Wheel |
PER/New Zealand
I'll bite A320. In a nutshell the aircraft can do PER/New Zealand. Many factors to consider re what revenue payload would be available in both directions. I suspect not feasible year round. |
never could understand why JQ doesn't fly BNE/ZQN & why does QF have so few flights ? 2 a week in part of winter only, whereas NZ/VA have up to a dozen a week.
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If you'd get on a Lion Group jet to Queenstown, the most challenging jet airport in Australasia, you're not very bright.
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Malindo to Queenstown in winter, that should be very interesting
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Malindo seem to have a great ability to land during fog when no one else does!
Twice this week in BNE. |
Malindo seem to have a great ability to land during fog when no one else does! But their pilots are very experienced which is why they were able to land. |
I liked the bread thief and rapist comment :E
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Originally Posted by Goat Whisperer
(Post 9776483)
If you'd get on a Lion Group jet to Queenstown, the most challenging jet airport in Australasia, you're not very bright.
The Chinese & other Asian airlines undercut every other airline & are gaining market share. Seems to be a drift away from the arab airlines, due to terrorism links & the Singapore Airlines of this world are getting their market share back. |
Originally Posted by BNEA320
(Post 9777353)
be careful with that superior attitude. No one wants to pay a premium to fly QF anymore. & JQ have been having a PR nightmare lately & JQ=QF in most peoples minds.
The Chinese & other Asian airlines undercut every other airline & are gaining market share. Seems to be a drift away from the arab airlines, due to terrorism links & the Singapore Airlines of this world are getting their market share back. Since you've figured out what's going on in all the passengers minds, maybe you can figure out what's happening in Alan's mind as well? Might help us come Eba time. |
be careful with that superior attitude. No one wants to pay a premium to fly QF anymore. & JQ have been having a PR nightmare lately & JQ=QF in most peoples minds There are always going to be different segments of the market, and not all airlines target all segments. Some might be prepared to pay more for QF due to getting FF points for example. Others might instead go to flight centre and select the cheapest fare, even if it is an Indonesian airline with a questionable safety reputation that they've never heard of. You could argue that the likes of NZ and QF aren't trying to attract these customers, as they couldn't make money from them! |
Originally Posted by goodonyamate
(Post 9777365)
Yep, that's why for the second year in a row QF are about to announce massive profits, and the 737 operation has always made massive profits, and why all 4 sectors I'm doing today are full with staff most likely left behind. It's also why QF mainline crew are being 'ZQN'd' again, with overnights and ongoing additional services. Because no one wants to fly with QF.
Since you've figured out what's going on in all the passengers minds, maybe you can figure out what's happening in Alan's mind as well? Might help us come Eba time. With recession, masses of people are heading for low cost airlines or not flying at all. The high cost legacy carriers in for a rough trot over next 5 years. |
Originally Posted by lc_461
(Post 9777369)
But here's the thing - QF from Brisbane to ZQN for example is only seasonal, twice weekly and often costs more than a round trip to LA.. The demand is there for for premium service and Qantas steps in to meet demand and prices accordingly.
There are always going to be different segments of the market, and not all airlines target all segments. Some might be prepared to pay more for QF due to getting FF points for example. Others might instead go to flight centre and select the cheapest fare, even if it is an Indonesian airline with a questionable safety reputation that they've never heard of. You could argue that the likes of NZ and QF aren't trying to attract these customers, as they couldn't make money from them! In busy months like August, even poor old NZ/VA are asking high fares. QF justs get the spill. Not offering anymore than 2 days a week, makes it hard for QF diehards to fly QF in both directions, when NZ/VA have up to 12/week, that's 2/day 5 days a week. Malindo is not Indo it's Malaysian which is why they can fly the Tasman, with almost no restriction & QF hasn't got the best safety record out there. Something like 11 fatals. |
BNEA320
& QF hasn't got the best safety record out there. Something like 11 fatals. |
Originally Posted by Unhinged
QF hasn't got the best safety record out there. Something like 11 fatals.
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Why do you guys insist on feeding the troll?
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With recession |
With recession, masses of people are heading for low cost airlines or not flying at all. The high cost legacy carriers in for a rough trot over next 5 years.
Yep, better tell Joyce the first batch of 787 900s going to mainline be redirected to Jetstar...think even he would disagree nowadays...... 'High cost legacy carriers' I guess you are referring to Qantas? Hasn't the transformation dealt with that? Certainly as far as the new pay deal for mainline pilots flying the 787 that is certainly the case........ Forgot to mention fuel price in your argument..... |
Originally Posted by Goat Whisperer
(Post 9776483)
If you'd get on a Lion Group jet to Queenstown, the most challenging jet airport in Australasia, you're not very bright.
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Originally Posted by troppo
(Post 9777283)
I liked the bread thief and rapist comment :E
Must have missed the fun whilst at work :E |
Originally Posted by Goat Whisperer
(Post 9776483)
If you'd get on a Lion Group jet to Queenstown, the most challenging jet airport in Australasia, you're not very bright.
BNEA320 You completely missed the point ranting on about low cost operators. Lion landed a 737 in the sea short of the runway in Bali thinking the runway was wet!! Can you imagine how a management pilot on his glory trip out the office with a pay to fly FO will get on, at least the NZ media will have something to talk about for 5 years. |
Originally Posted by wishiwasupthere
(Post 9777400)
I thought this had been put to bed? You obviously don't know what the definition of a recession is.
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Originally Posted by Enos
(Post 9778491)
My thoughts exactly!!
BNEA320 You completely missed the point ranting on about low cost operators. Lion landed a 737 in the sea short of the runway in Bali thinking the runway was wet!! Can you imagine how a management pilot on his glory trip out the office with a pay to fly FO will get on, at least the NZ media will have something to talk about for 5 years. So shouldn't fly QF ever ? Malindo is not indo, it's Malaysian. Like saying FJ is Australian. |
that many large builders are going belly up, A real estate slump is not a recession is it. |
I swore I wouldn't feed the troll, but you really need to get another researcher. The QF 744 was NOT written off, because it was cheaper to repair than replace it. A good guide is the second hand value versus the repair value. Do some proper research before spouting your "I heard" bull**** all over the place. :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by porch monkey
(Post 9779421)
I swore I wouldn't feed the troll, but you really need to get another researcher. The QF 744 was NOT written off, because it was cheaper to repair than replace it. A good guide is the second hand value versus the repair value. Do some proper research before spouting your "I heard" bull**** all over the place. :rolleyes:
It's going to be a very rough recession !!! By the way, just responding to some of the ignorant rubbish on here, doesn't make a troll. |
It's going to be a very rough recession !!! |
Originally Posted by Icarus2001
(Post 9779413)
Name three builders that have gone "belly up" this calendar year.
A real estate slump is not a recession is it. Going to be far more than a real estate slump. 23 financial institutions(apart form big 4 who have govt guarantees) had their credit ratings downgraded yesterday. Don't you read the news ? Another GFC perhaps ? Todays events in UK, will hurt airlines that are already struggling. |
Originally Posted by Icarus2001
(Post 9779429)
When will it begin BNEA320?
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recession rɪˈsɛʃ(ə)n/Submit noun 1. a period of temporary economic decline during which trade and industrial activity are reduced, generally identified by a fall in GDP in two successive quarters. "the country is in the depths of a recession" synonyms: economic decline, downturn, depression, slump, slowdown, trough, credit crunch, credit squeeze; More |
Oh BNEA320, I feel sorry for you, you are like Chicken Little running around telling everyone who will listen that the sky is falling in. You must suffer from terrible anxiety.
You spent the last 2 years telling us that because you found a cheap airfare to LAX at Christmas, Qantas was certain to fail! You came out looking very foolish and rather than pulling your head in you are upping the ante and telling us that now the entire country is doomed! In fact, not only is a recession on the way, we are already in one. Sadly for you, (but luckily for the rest of us), that doesn't appear to be the case. GDP: Australian economy rebounds 1.1 per cent, beating expectations I like this line the best: "The decent rebound doesn't just dash any lingering fears that Australia was in a recession, but it also boosts hopes that the surge in commodity prices will trigger a rapid recovery," said Capital Economics chief economist Paul Dales. "The income recession of 2015 has given way to a mini income boom." We are NOT in a recession. |
Anyway what's the debate about whether or not there's a recession got to do with the thread topic.
I suspect there some pretty tight hoops to jump through before anyone gets to do the flash RNP procedures into NZQN. |
You have access to the figures? Post them. And as for the "other rubbish posted", distinct from yours, of course?
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porch monkey
I suggest you take your own advice,which you happily dispensed earlier on this thread. 'Don't feed the troll' :hmm: |
All airlines into ZQN are required to be RNP qualified. QF is flown by Jetconnect aircraft as these crew are always current on this airport ( a landing and t/off every 30 days I believe)
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No one wants to pay a premium to fly QF anymore |
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