Tigerair fleet change to B737.
The other threads centered around the Bali debacle appear to have been removed. I thought the fleet change warranted a new thread of its own.
Can anyone shed any light on where the recruited guys are at? Are they doing type ratings, going to the A320, being let go? Basically what is happening with regard to the change to 737? If in fact it is still happening. Tigerair Australia to switch from A320 to 737 over next three years | Australian Aviation Tigerair Australia to add fourth 737 to fleet in December | Australian Aviation |
Still going ahead, just at a slower pace due to no DPS flying.
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Originally Posted by wheels_down
(Post 9726875)
They never recruited externally onto the 737, it never got that far.
The whole Virgin Australia operation is in the air at the moment. There has never been more chances of the leader being shown the door. With that hopefully comes some actual common sense in holding onto the Airbus operation. They have lost alot of good and experienced Airbus drivers already. Tiger Air certainly did recruit onto the 737 externally. |
Yes they recruited - or went through a process.
The Q is: has anyone been offered, and signed, a contract?? Oh - and a fixed, confirmed start date?? Cheers. |
Originally Posted by galdian
(Post 9726888)
Yes they recruited - or went through a process.
The Q is: has anyone been offered, and signed, a contract?? Oh - and a fixed, confirmed start date?? Cheers. |
OK - just to clarify Captains or F/O's or both?
Cheers. |
Originally Posted by galdian
(Post 9726917)
OK - just to clarify Captains or F/O's or both?
Cheers. |
They never recruited externally onto the 737, it never got that far. Tiger Air certainly did recruit onto the 737 externally. Yes they recruited - or went through a process. Yes, quite a few contractors have been recruited onto the 737 and have been thru the type rating and started. I guess there should be progress getting the B737 on the AOC then? Seems like the timing is off if they are sitting around doing nothing. |
The timing is off due to no DPS flying, as DPS was to be the first B737 Destination.
Expect the B737 flying to spool up at the end of this month or early May. |
They apparently recruited one of CASA's top managers to help them get it all done. Started a few months ago so they should be getting close.
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Oh spare me
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If he started a few months ago he has probably just finished sorting out the pens on his desk!
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Latest I heard was tiger staying Airbus and the 737s going back to white with red writing....
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Originally Posted by compressor stall
(Post 9727102)
Latest I heard was tiger staying Airbus and the 737s going back to white with red writing....
The removal of the Tiger A320's is part of the group fleet simplification plan. |
There's a plan BPA?
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So, grab a Virgin 737, paint it into Tiger colours for a few months until things go pear shaped then paint it back into a Virgin for a while until it's time to repaint it back into a Tiger again?!
What a blast for the paint companies :} Would love to know how much money and downtime has been spent on paint! How much does it cost to paint a 737 anyway? Anyone? Presumably the old paint has to be removed first to maintain payloads? I'm assuming it's hundreds of kilos of paint involved? No idea... |
Originally Posted by Octane
(Post 9727726)
So, grab a Virgin 737, paint it into Tiger colours for a few months until things go pear shaped then paint it back into a Virgin for a while until it's time to repaint it back into a Tiger again?!
What a blast for the paint companies :} Would love to know how much money and downtime has been spent on paint! How much does it cost to paint a 737 anyway? Anyone? Presumably the old paint has to be removed first to maintain payloads? I'm assuming it's hundreds of kilos of paint involved? No idea... |
Ah, a bit of paint stripper? Not so expensive then. Apologies..
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Not getting why fleet simplification is such a big when you have a 1 type fleet of A320s ?
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have a 1 type fleet of A320s ? |
Originally Posted by coaldemon
(Post 9726966)
They apparently recruited one of CASA's top managers to help them get it all done. Started a few months ago so they should be getting close.
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Totally get "across the Virgin group"
But just how much is shared VA won't even fly a 737 in Tiger colours for a couple of months and VA are running a couple of 320s in WA Separate admin, crew and attendants but I get that there would be savings for ground staff and maintenance Likely more to do with finding homes for all the shiny new 737s they have committed to VA seem to have no issue with going out and ordering new planes every few years and flogging of 5-6 year old frames in a buyers market Maybe this is why QF is doing so much better with a fleet age of nearly 11 years versus VA at less than 7 years and less than 2 years away from a single isle fleet replacement Why they don't buy their frames at the end of lease and run them up to 10-15 years old is just ludicrous REX and Alliance both have fleets of over 20 year old frames and with the exception of the occasional prop falling off, they are both making better profits than VA Alliance picked up their F70s and F100s for under $1 million each...or the 30 or so that they bought would still be less than 1 of VAs new 737s Yes they drink more, but still.... |
Question, how does virgin have enough 737s to release to tiger when the are taking over the flying from the 18 odd Ejets being retired and also delaying the Max until at least late 2019?
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Originally Posted by davidclarke
(Post 9727931)
Question, how does virgin have enough 737s to release to tiger when the are taking over the flying from the 18 odd Ejets being retired and also delaying the Max until at least late 2019?
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Remember not all Ejet flying will be replaced by 737 flying with Alliance picking up some of the flying as well. |
Alliance will replace the 737 routes that don't have frames on them because the 737s are covering the E-jets ;)
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They also have at least 6 NG's coming and are holding onto B737's that were going to be lease returns from memory. All adds up to more pilots required.
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250kg of paint on a 737
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Originally Posted by Deano969
(Post 9727902)
Totally get "across the Virgin group"
But just how much is shared VA won't even fly a 737 in Tiger colours for a couple of months and VA are running a couple of 320s in WA Separate admin, crew and attendants but I get that there would be savings for ground staff and maintenance Likely more to do with finding homes for all the shiny new 737s they have committed to VA seem to have no issue with going out and ordering new planes every few years and flogging of 5-6 year old frames in a buyers market Maybe this is why QF is doing so much better with a fleet age of nearly 11 years versus VA at less than 7 years and less than 2 years away from a single isle fleet replacement Why they don't buy their frames at the end of lease and run them up to 10-15 years old is just ludicrous REX and Alliance both have fleets of over 20 year old frames and with the exception of the occasional prop falling off, they are both making better profits than VA Alliance picked up their F70s and F100s for under $1 million each...or the 30 or so that they bought would still be less than 1 of VAs new 737s Yes they drink more, but still.... |
Originally Posted by davidclarke
(Post 9727931)
Question, how does virgin have enough 737s to release to tiger when the are taking over the flying from the 18 odd Ejets being retired and also delaying the Max until at least late 2019?
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Originally Posted by Skystar320
(Post 9729048)
250kg of paint on a 737
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Originally Posted by AerialPerspective
(Post 9730477)
That can't be right... I thought there was only about 400-450kg on a 747.
Roughly 85Kg and a 737. Painting versus Polishing of Airplane Exterior Surfaces |
What is the go with VH-VOR? looks like is has recently been based in AKL, and painted all white after its short stint with TT.
Has it had an VA cabin re-installed, or are the J passengers up for an nice surprise when they arrive at the Airport. Assuming its being crewed by VA (AKL Crew) or is it operated by TT still. |
It's been handed back to VAI(NZ) temporarily to cover another 73 in heavy maintenance. Cabin is VA fitted and crew is VAI(NZ). It will go back to TT within the next few months.
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Why is Alliance operating F100 for Tiger?
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Out of curiosity what would the cost of the internal fit out cost? Externally I don't think would be all that much as tiger and VA only have tail and engine cowl differences. Just seems like more wasted money by our top managers.
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This has got to be costing an absolute bomb to chop and change like this.
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Originally Posted by SHVC
(Post 9733043)
Out of curiosity what would the cost of the internal fit out cost? Externally I don't think would be all that much as tiger and VA only have tail and engine cowl differences. Just seems like more wasted money by our top managers.
https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/8541146 |
Who is Tegos ? ? ?
Hey AerialPerspective Guru / in the know & No Crap Master :ok:
Who is running under the Callsign TEGOS pls :confused: Is it of any fact, AQZ are running TT flts ex MML :confused: |
DutyofCare is right on the money. Actually, Alliance is on the money!
Mate of mine reckons Virgin is the best thing that ever happened to them. Going gang busters. Basically Skywest, Tiger and Alliance are loving the "Game Change"... |
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