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737pnf 17th Mar 2018 08:00

Bugger those who are applying now didn't get in a few months ago. Last time I checked, they were after A320 contractors, bonded for a mere 10 months! Now it's back up to 36.
Wonder who's taking over the HR dept? TS (head of HR) along with several other key, long standing employees within HQ, has resigned recently.
Should I mention both unions have moved for rights to pursue PIA (protected industrial action)?

TULSAMI - do yourself a favour - go and get those exams completed ;)

galdian 18th Mar 2018 02:40

Management would be fine - take the extra $$, have weekends off and just hope it all holds together until retirement.

Leadership - be nice to throw a bit of that into the company.

As always how many of their problems are solely internal Vs problems as bequeathed from the mothership debatable, based on the 737 debacle the "pissup in a brewery" pretty much describes the corperate capabilities on display.

Outside appearances are from Borghetti down nobody gives a sh*t anymore.

framer 19th Mar 2018 00:49

I’ve seen that requirement disappear at another Airline with one sentence from the CP.
HR: “ we have nobody left in the hold pool and very few new applicants”
CP: “ ok, drop the hours by 500 and get rid of the ATPL”.

Ozgrade3 19th Mar 2018 10:11

I wonder how the Corporate operators are faring in the US, are they bleeding to the majors or is it the other way round.

wheels_down 19th Mar 2018 11:35

Whats the holdup? Original plan years back had the Tiger fleet all 737 as of mid this year.

The Virgin group have the 737s, its not a fleet shortage here. I assume they are having problems getting out of the Airbus Leases?

Whats the holdup folks? This is the worlds slowest fleet conversion I have ever seen.

morno 19th Mar 2018 13:15

It all started going wrong when someone said “what if we.....” and that was the end.

Shame, because Tiger was really going great until Virgin took over the entire thing and started to Virginise it.

Chadzat 20th Mar 2018 01:00

Bit like Skywest really....

grrowler 20th Mar 2018 20:12

When was Tiger doing well?? I can remember the time they got shut down by CASA, and the other time they kept losing money and were given away by Singapore rather than close the doors.

morno 21st Mar 2018 02:39


Originally Posted by grrowler (Post 10090816)
When was Tiger doing well?? I can remember the time they got shut down by CASA, and the other time they kept losing money and were given away by Singapore rather than close the doors.

How about the time when they were making money, had good morale, were kicking Jetstar’s ass in OTP and Cancellation rates.

grrowler 21st Mar 2018 04:08

So the period after Virgin took over some of the costs and handed over ready made routes, but before they clustered the Bali flying (also ex VA)?
But I agree, virginisation has few winners 😎

morno 21st Mar 2018 06:55


Originally Posted by grrowler (Post 10091119)
So the period after Virgin took over some of the costs and handed over ready made routes, but before they clustered the Bali flying (also ex VA)?
But I agree, virginisation has few winners 😎

No, before that. There were no “ready made routes” given to Tigerair during the period I’m referring to.

Let’s not turn this into another “they stole my job just like Jetstar stole my Qantas career” argument.

People don’t seem to get the whole “think as a group” concept.

stormfury 21st Mar 2018 11:21

Virgin Australia appoints Merren McArthur as Tigerair boss
 
Virgin Australia appoints Merren McArthur as Tigerair boss | afr.com

These paragraphs stood out.

Mr Borghetti said she had transformed and strengthened its regional airline and cargo business and he was "confident that she will make an invaluable contribution in this new role".

Ms McArthur said her first focus when she starts is to learn about the business by listening to its staff and stakeholders, a strategy she used when she entered Skywest to get a handle on its business model.

She said one of the aspects of running Tigerair that appealed to her was the innovation under way in the airline designed to help lower its costs but improve customer experience.

For example, Tigerair is replacing its fleet of Airbus A320s with Boeing 737s, which typically offer a similar number of seats. But the 737s will be fitted out with new "slim line" seats that Ms McArthur says allows for an extra six passengers but maintains leg room and existing space for passengers in the aircraft.

Icarus2001 21st Mar 2018 12:21

Love the language. Changing fleets does not "improve the customer experience" especially with slimline seats. They are all about "an extra six passengers" sharing the same cabin space and waiting for the toilets.

wheels_down 21st Mar 2018 12:33

Tony then Chris, Shelley, Crawford, Tony again, Andrew, Rob and now Merren.

The merry go round of Tiger bosses rolls on. Tony Davis would be proud.

grrowler 21st Mar 2018 21:45


Tigerair Australia has completed a challenging turnaround, with its first annual profit. The LCC, now a fully owned subsidiary of Virgin Australia, was profitable for the first time in its nine-year history in the year ending 30-Jun-2016.

Synergies with Virgin Australia, operational improvements and network adjustments have contributed to the transformation. Virgin Australia has joined its rival Qantas in employing an effective two brand strategy, with Tigerair Australia focused entirely on the leisure sector.
quote from CAPA article

Get the “Big Picture, Greater Good of the Group”, but pretending Tiger did that on their own is having a lend.

morno 22nd Mar 2018 05:17

I don't think I ever claimed that Tiger did it on their own grrowler, but there certainly wasn't a fleet transformation going on at that time and they were left a bit to their own devices to get on with it.

As soon as the fleet transformation started and everything else commenced, it all fell apart.

morno

ASY68 22nd Mar 2018 13:04

VHVNJ and VHVNQ are both in Clark presently.

VHVNJ is getting a repaint to return to the wild west ;)

VHVNQ is being returned to the lessor.

Keep an eye out for VOR heading back to TSV for a repaint...AGAIN...

PPRuNeUser0182 22nd Mar 2018 13:22


Originally Posted by morno (Post 10089130)
Shame, because Tiger was really going great until Virgin took over

Really?! The going got great bit is because virgin took over.

wheels_down 25th Feb 2020 20:44

Fleet conversion to be signed off with 6 months.

All A320s removed. Only replacing with 2 737s from Virgin NZ.

That’s a lot of Airbus drivers left in limbo.

What an opp for the competition to take these guys on.

das Uber Soldat 25th Feb 2020 21:09

Assuming that's true, what's the total fleet size after this adjustment?


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