Gay colors?
 

Why is a aircraft being taken off line (QF) to be painted in rainbow colors with a rainbow flag for the Gay Mardi Gras? Engineers are enraged at this message they got from hirachy. Hopefully its a joke, but in these days......... its more then possible.

Why? It gives them kudos & will encourage more to fly with them than it will put them off. The QF fanboys will spin it that QF is doing it for social justice but in reality, free publicity and extra revenue. The QF media machine in action.

Before this is closed...

Do you have issues with all QF themed aircraft? Or just this one? I'd hazard a guess that it's this one in particular. Go be miserable somewhere else.

Why? Because Marketing told them to, that's why. Why would engineers be enraged by a paint job? Special paint jobs are almost always done during a check - highly unlikely that QF would waste hangar time.

EVA have Hello Kitty planes. No howls of outrage from the engineers there

Qantas is a sponsor, it's a major event that attracts a lot of foreign and domestic visitors and the "pink" dollar is huge.

Rainbow Roo ? Qantas shows support for Sydney Mardi Gras | Australian Aviation

Partners ? Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras

The flag is upside down. International sign of distress. Seems about right

Well spotted Keg. :D:D:D

Alan Joyce open in his lifestyle and the Gay Mardi Gras, what did you think would happen

I call BS.
Most Engineers have ceased living in the 80's and are enjoying the present decade where issues like this are....... non-issues.

It's been a long time (more than a decade) since I've flown with anyone that has expressed homophobic opinions (in the true sense of the word). I don't know of anyone that has a problem flying with a LGBTQI colleague.

The angst that I detect is more about the overt politicisation of the workplace- particularly for those who may not support the parallel #equalityis campaign Qantas is running. Even a couple of people I've spoken to that support SSM think the use of the A330 in these colours is inappropriate politicisation- their words, not mine.

So? Why do you need to get on Pprune and tell evetyone?

phobia
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noun
noun: phobia; plural noun: phobias
an extreme or irrational fear of or aversion to something.

I don't know anybody who has a fear of them but know plenty that don't like them.

Then perhaps we should have one done for Anzac Day. A day for ALL Australians.

Now you're just embarrassing yourselves.

Probably because they are snowed under with real jobs. And dont have time to pull a A/C off line, for a job like this.

Why should it be closed? Because its not PC? I thought we still lived in a democracy.Its not about Gays, so why not have a Aircraft painted for Anzac Day? Australia Day? Labor Day? Palm Sunday? Easter? Christmas? Oddly enough, some find it offensive for three quarter naked people, strutting their stuff in a public place. Then painting an aircraft that carries The Australian Flag, to promote it. Those people also have a right, to express their opinion.

Did you think, nobody would notice?

Wanna bet?

Exactly Keg. Anzac Day for ALL Australians regardless of color or creed or sexuality, I would understand.A Mardi Gras, I find perhaps a little disconcerting. Then again I flew with pilots who would think LGBTQI were jumble words that meant something, you just had to get it.Different times.PS. I still don't know what they mean.What is a Q? Or an I?

It will be closed because it starts attracting the likes of cattletruck being offensive and making comments that have nothing whatsoever to do with aviation.

Do Qantas sponsor any of those events for 2017? No.

I think that it's a bridge too far. I don't give a flying fig about the Gay Mardi Gras but why has Qantas corrupted its corporate logo for a (perceived) short term commercial gain? I know of not one other instance when Qantas has used other than its standard logo. Did it paint "Qantas" on the 747 used for the Olympic team in green and gold? No. Did it do likewise on the 380 that was decorated for the Wallabies? No. Did the Qantas logo change on OJB and EBU when they were Wunala and Nalanji Dreaming? No. Has any other leading company bastardised its corporate logo by deviating from its standards?

I guess the rainbow logo is getting attention which was the intention but is it good attention?

It was entirely removed on the Wallabies 747. Why do you think many people will give a rats?:

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If forming opinions about Australia from certain touristy and trendy districts I am surprised the whole fleet are not painted in this livery ..................









( just kidding and certainly no harm in doing it although the roo should still be the main feature)

Ken, the red colour as part of the tail logo on B738 XZJ (Mendoowoorrji Livery) is not the QF red.

What's that Skip? Qantas is down the back in cattle class wearing yellow? And except for the Q it's in lower case?

"Has any other leading company bastardised its corporate logo by deviating from its standards?"

Yes. British Airways.


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I’m wondering if they are enraged because an AC was taken off the line for painting, or because they have to paint it in “gay colours”. OP seems to contend the latter. That’s a real shame.

Maybe these spanner monkeys should put down their Daily Mail, switch off their record player, trade in their ox for a car and open their eyes to 2017.

As an openly gay guy working in engineering (Switzerland) I’m really relieved to say this kind of “enragement” wouldn’t happen here. Our marketing department could mandate re-painting the fuselage in pink, cockpit (pun intended) in purple and depicting the MLG as two hairy swingers and nobody would raise and eyelid. Get over yourselves.

I won’t quote what cattletruck said in #14, but connecting gays and paedophilia together shows a startling naivety. There’s a very highly cited study by behavioural sexologists in Toronto. I won’t paste the link because it contains long, multi-syllable words but in short they put the ratio of heterosexual to homosexual offenders at 11:1…. Get back under your rock… I’m glad we are on opposite sides of the planet – the likelihood of us ever having to work together is practically zero…. Phew.

It is an abomination.

Let's make it the "Straight 78"! It is the majority after all!

Yes i know, this thread is just awful

So I guess that great Aussie tradition of going to the beach is also a bridge too far for these intolerant people stuck in the 19th century.

The irony is that there would not need to be a Mardi Gras if there was not the intolerance displayed by the OP and people like him.

Show me the servicemen and women who are discriminated against because of how they were born and I'll paint the plane myself.

I think it is really good, but do it to an A380 and fly it to Dubai that would be better

That is probably because, as the captain, you set the tone on the flight deck.

I can assure you that there are still some around... :rolleyes:

ruprecht

Considering that many passengers won't know the aircraft they are flying on or how many engines it has, far less what the paint scheme is, is there any point? The people who will see it most are airside airport workers and the odd passenger that happens to be looking out of a terminal window as it taxis past. Some will see it as just another instance of a minority issue given the 'in your face' treatment. Personally I think it is a very expensive waste of time.

It will be noticed and will appear in many instagram, twitter and Facebook photos. Ultimately reprinting aircraft in promotional schemes will have a considered marketing benefit. The colours are also representative of the CEO and many front line employees.
It would be good to see more causes and promotional colours celebrating Australian heritage and minorities on Qantas aircraft.

What an outstanding achievement! I would not have thought it possible to make the new livery look worse but clearly I underestimate the ability of the marketing department. I don’t have a problem with Qantas supporting (a cynic might say patronising) the LGBTI community but you don’t mess with your brand to do so.

Boeing folk already know Airbuses are gay, no need for a paint scheme to prove it!

Homophobic means being fearful of gays. I am not that, but I do not enjoy flying alongside gay men. What, pray, is wrong with that? We are very different types of people after all, and have different ways. I am not saying that there is a right and a wrong, but there sure is a difference. The gay guys acknowledge this too. And they freely admit that they too prefer flying alongside their own kind. Safety is not an issue, thanks to SOP's and corporate culture. We are tolerant, which does not equate to enjoyment, nor to phobia of people of other sexual inclinations.

What it all means
 

What does the acronym LGBTIQ mean?

Lesbian
Gay
Bisexual
Trans*
Intersex
Queer

What does it mean for me? I'm a 'G'. I take it personally. But if you were sitting next to me on an A330, you'd probably need to be told that I'm a 'G' to know.

When a company indulges in a bit of pink marketing I pay attention, because it tells me that the company knows about LGBTIQ presence, what issues LGBTIQ people might have to deal with and that that the company provides a safe space where we don't have to deal with the hostility that some give off.

I choose to avoid some airlines because of the laws in the countries that they are based in or fly through. I now think twice before booking on QF9 or QF10 now that it flies via Dubai. Dubai is not a place I want to be stuck in if an aircraft has a tech fault, which was never a consideration in Hong Kong or Singapore.