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Jc31 26th Oct 2016 23:47

New Qantas livery.
 
Thoughts everyone?

tail wheel 27th Oct 2016 00:10

A most informative post indeed. :ugh:

I guess you are referring to this:

http://australianaviation.com.au/wp-...livery-787.jpg

Qantas reveals new livery and logo | Australian Aviation

chimbu warrior 27th Oct 2016 00:13

Disclaimer: don't work for or own shares in Qantas.

Personally I think this is like the Emperor's new clothes. Minor difference, achieved at (no doubt) major cost. A bit like the cabin crew and pilot uniforms.

If it ain't broke.....don't mess with it.

Fonz121 27th Oct 2016 00:13

Light typeface - so hot right now.

Fonz121 27th Oct 2016 00:15

Some of the group aircraft don't even have the current livery yet. I guess they can skip straight to this one and it 'saves' a paint job.

Jc31 27th Oct 2016 00:17


Originally Posted by tail wheel (Post 9557250)
A most informative post indeed. :ugh:

I guess you are referring to this:

http://australianaviation.com.au/wp-...livery-787.jpg

Qantas reveals new livery and logo | Australian Aviation

Wasn't trying to inform anyone of anything tw just starting a new thread so we could discuss the change. Why do you like banging your head against a wall?

Old Fella 27th Oct 2016 00:21

CW, agree wholeheartedly with your sentiments. Would be interesting to know just how "major" the cost was to redesign the previous livery to the new.

logansi 27th Oct 2016 00:30

I really don't understand why, a new font and an arm less kangaroo aren't really going to make money. I would rather them spend there money on a few more aircraft that painting all the current ones!

Jc31 27th Oct 2016 00:50


Originally Posted by logansi (Post 9557263)
I really don't understand why, a new font and an arm less kangaroo aren't really going to make money. I would rather them spend there money on a few more aircraft that painting all the current ones!

It's about staying relevant and renewed in a world that is globalised where branding and marketing is ever so important. Also more aircraft doesn't necessarily equate to making more money.
I for one love the new livery.

tail wheel 27th Oct 2016 00:50


Why do you like banging your head against a wall?
I don't really know, been doing it for 20 years as a PPRuNe Mod. :confused: :confused: :sad:

Regarding your thread, this is PPRuNe, not a Qantas exclusive aircrew forum.

People visit this forum from all over the world, from the aviation industry, wannabes and non aviation people. Kids visit this forum. And PPRuNe Mods moderate this forum that have never worked for or had anything to do with Qantas and didn't know there was a new colour scheme. It is not earth shattering news you know.......

A little informative detail in the first post would go a long way to enlightening the masses and illiterate Mods!!! :ok: :ok: :ok:

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Jc31 27th Oct 2016 00:52


Originally Posted by tail wheel (Post 9557271)
I don't really know, been doing it for 20 years as a PPRuNe Mod. :confused: :confused: :sad:

Regarding your thread, this is PPRuNe, not a Qantas exclusive aircrew forum.

People visit this forum from all over the world, from the aviation industry, wannabes and non aviation people. Kids visit this forum. And PPRuNe Mods moderate this forum that have never worked for or had anything to do with Qantas and didn't know there was a new colour scheme. It is not earth shattering news you know.......

A little informative detail in the first post would go a long way to enlightening the masses!!! :ok: :ok: :ok:

:}

That's a fair statement tw. Happy flying!

Capn Bloggs 27th Oct 2016 01:07

They forgot the bit at the back!

Fris B. Fairing 27th Oct 2016 02:26

It's not clearly visible in the photo above but Ch 9 just showed some footage of a "Dreamliner" that looked not unlike an A330 and on both sides of the nose was a winged kangaroo in a circle. This emblem first appeared on the B747 engine cowls. Given this recognition of what the roo used to look like, I could be persuaded to live with the new stylised version on the tail. It's certainly an improvement on the current club foot abomination. It's basically armless anyway. As for the new logotype - I don't like it at all.

International Trader 27th Oct 2016 02:31

Is it a new shade of white or something?
Wait,now I see it.
We will be staring up at the heavens in wonder, to see just which god is descending to earth. We will read the belly title and know that it is the god of aviation!
How low do they need to descend for the public to read it?

No perceivable difference that will translate into $$$.
Glad my $$$ aren't there.

Then again, better than a cartoon figure of a of Leprechaun smiling at you.

Ida down 27th Oct 2016 03:25


Originally Posted by Jc31 (Post 9557255)
Wasn't trying to inform anyone of anything tw just starting a new thread so we could discuss the change. Why do you like banging your head against a wall?

Beautiful aircraft. Why does it need one of those things on the tail, that your nan used to make baby blankets with? What was wrong with the roo?

Ex FSO GRIFFO 27th Oct 2016 04:06

"Looks 'armless enuf"......To an Irishman maybe......

Is that a 'leprechaun hat' Oi wonder....??

:p

ANCDU 27th Oct 2016 04:15

With this new livery and my shiny new white cap, I am so engaged right now I think I am going to pop!!:rolleyes:

troppo 27th Oct 2016 04:26

It's halfway towards morphing into a NZ koru...not long now :E

crwkunt roll 27th Oct 2016 05:02

They spelt Sydney wrong.

OzBob 27th Oct 2016 05:16

That thing on the tail looks as much like a kangaroo as one of these;

http://images.fineartamerica.com/ima...nce-source.jpg

Keg 27th Oct 2016 06:35

I would have liked to have seen the red tail and roo on the underneath of the aeroplane as well.

Repainting all aeroplanes in three years is welcome given its been more than 8 years since OGD was unveiled on the world and we still have aeroplanes in the old (now old, old) colour scheme.

I like the touch of the old, old, old, old logo under the cockpit.

rodney rude 27th Oct 2016 07:39

Great - its all cool to reinvent and keep modern and real, but this guy probably charged 6 or 7 figures to what????? chops Skippy's front legs off. I could've come up with that for about 30 bucks

ramble on 27th Oct 2016 07:42

Crikey, what a massive self flagellation.

Making such a big deal about the 787 when so many operators are already operating it, including their own low cost brand. Jetstar crew must have a wry smile. Even Joyce looked uncomfortable trying to fit his ass in the J class seat.

What happened to 777s - every other smart operater has them?

Wasting so much money on uniform changes and livery (font) changes when what is really needed is someone to look at it from a customers perspective.

I recently flew an internal low cost mainland China airline and from the passengers perspective it left QF for dead.

I am in the bunker with helmet on - and yes I am a lifetime QF Club member.

PoppaJo 27th Oct 2016 07:45

Since when are they the Spirit of Australia?

Spirit of Sydney anyone?

logansi 27th Oct 2016 07:47


Originally Posted by PoppaJo (Post 9557496)
Since when are they the Spirit of Australia?

Spirit of Sydney anyone?

Lets hope that changes a bit thanks to the 787 with MEL-DFW among others from MEL, BNE and PER

ExtraShot 27th Oct 2016 08:32

Disappointing for the Economy Pax.

17.4 inch wide seat, roughly that of the 737, with a 32 inch pitch, which is what the 737 SHOULD have (it has 30 inch pitch incase you didn't know, apparently that is a 'Premium' product). Nothing innovative or spectacular.

This aircraft is going to be regularly doing 16 and sometimes 17hr plus sectors, very uncomfortable down the back unless you have a spare seat next to you. Surely they could have sacrificed one seat per economy row (around 20 seats total as a guess), and provided an industry leading 8 abreast like the aircraft was intended.

After all the build up to todays unveiling, it becomes a half-announcement, and people still have to wait to see where the Aircraft will fly and what this so called 'super duper' premium economy will consist of.

A Big 'Meh'-Burger with cheese so far.

Keg 27th Oct 2016 09:22

Yeah. You're right. Nothing to see here. Except the media loved it and lots of free PR for Qantas. The method to their meanness I suspect isn't about announcing anything significant, it's about creating 'a buzz' for the media and public that don't pay much attention.

dragon man 27th Oct 2016 10:36

The rumours are, aircraft 1 and 2, Mel/Lax/Mel.
Aircraft 3 and 4 Mel/Pth/London return.
Aircraft 5 and 6 Bne/Lax/JFK return.

In the Soup 27th Oct 2016 10:38


What happened to 777s - every other smart operater has them?
Yeah, like VA.

No doubt QF would have had the 78's much earlier if it wasn't for the financial losses in recent years

Going Boeing 27th Oct 2016 12:24


No doubt QF would have had the 78's much earlier if it wasn't for the financial losses in recent years
Yeah, but they were "losses" on the books to achieve a certain outcome for senior executives - not genuine losses.

Joyce says that the B787 will "revolutionize" Qantas - I wonder how much better off Qantas would be right now if he hadn't cancelled 51 orders for very keenly priced B787's.

Duck Pilot 27th Oct 2016 12:48

Some of the contractors aircraft could do with a wash/polish/new paint job! B717 VH-NXK looks like something I'd expect to see on a GA bug smasher.

QuarterInchSocket 27th Oct 2016 15:28

Thought we'd seen the worst with the pink hostie uniforms... then came the cheap ManToMan single breasted hipster suit, with a nice looking cap ruined by the dark chocolate kangaroo biscuit slapped on the front of it.

To cap off this s**t sandwich - everyone gets a roo without front legs, font on the fuse that looks like qf's main domestic competitor's, and an emirates... correction, qantas tattoo on the gut of the plane.

On a side note, I can't believe theres still people buying the <orchestrated> financial losses propaganda. Come on!

RENURPP 27th Oct 2016 20:50


Some of the contractors aircraft could do with a wash/polish/new paint job! B717 VH-NXK looks like something I'd expect to see on a GA bug smasher.
hhhhmmmmm, Qantas aircraft, maintained increasingly, all heavy maintenance by QF.

The contractor you insinuated has its own aircraft. The 717's aren't theirs.

XPT 28th Oct 2016 00:43

what an incredible waste of money. The new typeface comes straight out of a word processor & should have cost nothing, but somehow bet Newson got paid squillions.

Keg 28th Oct 2016 01:42

Re the typeface. I'm not sure what the fascination is these days with the subdued grey. Every time I see that grey I feel like I need to get my glasses re-tested. It's like someone's painted it poorly, not that it's supposed to be that way.

ACMS 28th Oct 2016 07:39

Looks like the word OANTAS

Very strange Q

Oriana 28th Oct 2016 09:12

ACMS has it. the gap between the 'Q' and the 'A' is weird.

Additionally, the old-logo-by-the-nose is a rip off from Lufthansa livery.

cattletruck 28th Oct 2016 09:53

I guess a new plane means new face make up, particularly if you're in touch with your feminine side.

I've never understood the Premium Economy class, it's like buying a Commodore with wings.
In fact why doesn't Qantas reclassify their seating classes into something that is more Oztralian.
Economy = Scumbag class.
Premium Economy = Scumbag class pretending you are not a scumbag.
Business = Business expense write-off class.
First = Tax avoider class.

The could even paint lines on the outside of the fuselage to help with the distinction when they are all flying together.

Turnleft080 28th Oct 2016 12:29

What ever happened to the beautiful cheat lines that airliners use to have. It made an
airliner an airliner with the black nose. All airliners in the 60s 70s 80s wore them.
Note the 2 QF retros
They looked smart with a touch of class. Today's colour schemes are a disgrace.
I can only name 2 companies that have a C/L. SIA and TAAG Angola.

nicolai 28th Oct 2016 13:37


Originally Posted by Keg (Post 9558584)
Re the typeface. I'm not sure what the fascination is these days with the subdued grey. Every time I see that grey I feel like I need to get my glasses re-tested. It's like someone's painted it poorly, not that it's supposed to be that way.

Internet is becoming unreadable because of a trend towards lighter, thinner fonts has some details.

In summary, some online media designers like it because it looks "elegant" and "restrained", while in fact it's hard to read and obscures communication. Since only a few graphic designers at a few companies are the gateway to most of the content you see, via computer app and content design guidelines, lighter text and lower contrast becomes ubiquitous, and associated with "modern", and then people like airlines follow suit.

Lemmings over a cliff, because they couldn't read their too-trendy signs.


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