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Keg 18th Nov 2016 09:09

I would have thought such counselling sessions would have rated a mention on Qrewroom?

Density 18th Nov 2016 09:21

My hat is dirty already! Urghhh only took a month!

I.smell.a.rat 18th Nov 2016 12:57

Having worn the uniform for a while now;

Far more comfortable than I thought
Plenty of compliments from staff and travellers
White is the new black
If they pay me this much, I'll wear anything!

I haven't heard of any uniform police around, haven't seen any and don't expect to either.

Safe flying peeps

Bug Smasher Smasher 18th Nov 2016 15:06

Perhaps now that SOs no longer need to spend time putting away the captain's charts they can be put to work cleaning hats.

blow.n.gasket 23rd Nov 2016 00:37

I smell a Qantas Angel ,
with I smell a rats post.
According to a few of the base managers who actually tell it like it is
there has been a lot of negative crew reports coming in ,
(And I was told "a lot ") about serious comfort and safety issues regarding the new uniform now that crew have had multiple sectors to endure this latest exercise in form over function.
The managers response , keep 'em coming in!
Unless there is an avalanche of reports ,then there can't possibly be anything wrong under the emporors dictum.

C441 23rd Nov 2016 02:52

The uniform appearance (except maybe the hat) is fine.
The uniform's practicality is not.
My jacket, that is already at the larger end of my normal fitting, is so tight that I can't lift my arms without feeling the jacket will split across the shoulders. It's being replaced with a larger one that will look like I'm wearing a potato sack. Fashionable it won't be!
I also have a 10 step hat……after 10 steps it falls off. I had a haircut yesterday….maybe that'll work.:cool:

I'm lucky as I'm slim, so the jatz crackers aren't in danger when sitting and a normal fit shirt actually does. (Tried a slim fit but it didn't!)

dr dre 23rd Nov 2016 07:32


It's being replaced with a larger one that will look like I'm wearing a potato sack. Fashionable it won't be!
Ever thought about doing what every other person who has ill fitting clothes does and go to a tailor?

Tankengine 23rd Nov 2016 07:40


Originally Posted by dr dre (Post 9587111)
Ever thought about doing what every other person who has ill fitting clothes does and go to a tailor?

Happy to for my own clothes.
For company supplied uniforms: if they want us to look good they will supply good uniforms, or have them tailored.
If they don't care we can just look crap in the crap they have supplied! ;)

maggot 23rd Nov 2016 08:10

Und das ist verboten

Keg 23rd Nov 2016 09:39


Originally Posted by dr dre (Post 9587111)
Ever thought about doing what every other person who has ill fitting clothes does and go to a tailor?

How do you tailor a hat that is either too big or too small. It's shape is perfectly round. Thus it's either loose all around or tight fore and aft whilst loose on the side. Supposedly he consulted a milliner to design it. The look perhaps, but not the fitting.

For me I haven't had any issues with the pants or jacket. The shirts I've modified but they're still not ideal.

I've avoided the heat issue by walking slowly. Short legs help. :}

goodonyamate 23rd Nov 2016 19:05

I've also avoided the heat issue, but by not wearing the jacket. Sure, I'll wear it when I feel the temperature allows me too, but if it's too hot outside, it's not leaving home, regardless of what temp it is inside. I've seen managers, checkies, base advisors etc.... no one cares, no one has even mentioned it.
Seriously, they wanted a big hoohaa for the launch, that's done, onto the next thing. I'm hearing the number of FCR mentioning shirt issues is so high they may be forced to resdesign. (The other forum mentions that they actually have a desire to fix the issues which is good)

If they'd just asked first, and left the one who wanted to move the wings out of it, the uniform could look good and still be functional....now it will end up costing them even more 🙄

C441 23rd Nov 2016 20:29


Ever thought about doing what every other person who has ill fitting clothes does and go to a tailor?
I suggested that letting the jacket out a little across the shoulders would probably solve the problem but was told not to get it done myself nor would they do it - despite initially suggesting they may. I even suggested that a larger size would probably be too long in the sleeves and minimal tailoring would be a better option. Apparently not.
Given that and the fact that the jacket belongs to Qantas, I'm less than enthusiastic about making substantial adjustments to their clothing. I guess this way they can pass the jacket on to someone it will fit and it is considered a cost saving.
The massive budget for "looking great" in the new uniform obviously has some limits.

As a side note, those I've been dealing with have been very helpful in endeavouring to get a good result. I guess they're limited by their instructions too.

Wunwing 23rd Nov 2016 22:58

Sometimes there becomes apparent a "silver lining" when there is a uniform aberration imposed on crew.

Back in the days of Qantas owned by the Government we got a new Minister who was ex railways. He decided that we were only train drivers so he put us in a uniform similar to NSW rail and bus even though we objected.

At about the same time as the uniform was issued there was a major and long, fuel strike and were all had to use trains and bus. It was also winter so we had jackets on.

It was then we discovered what Mr Minister had done for us. No one would sell us a ticket on a Govt. bus or train because we were obviously staff and were entitled to free transport. No one would come near us because all the gold stripes indicated that we were very important. I even had ticket inspectors walk past me muttering "good morning sir". A friend who was a senior check and lived near Palm Beach ( a long bus trip if you don't know Sydney) was offered a seat at the rear of a bus and other passengers were instructed by the driver not to sit there.

So all you QF staff, you never know how this one will work out. there may be good yet although if there ever was an example of Qantas re inventing the wheel, I suspect the white hats are it. At least you don't have skydrol eating holes in the plastic tops like we did on the 707s.

Wunwing

blow.n.gasket 23rd Nov 2016 23:56

Skydrol hat spritzers at sign on anyone? :}

Potsie Weber 24th Nov 2016 02:53


Sometimes there becomes apparent a "silver lining" when there is a uniform aberration imposed on crew.

Back in the days of Qantas owned by the Government we got a new Minister who was ex railways. He decided that we were only train drivers so he put us in a uniform similar to NSW rail and bus even though we objected.

At about the same time as the uniform was issued there was a major and long, fuel strike and were all had to use trains and bus. It was also winter so we had jackets on.

It was then we discovered what Mr Minister had done for us. No one would sell us a ticket on a Govt. bus or train because we were obviously staff and were entitled to free transport. No one would come near us because all the gold stripes indicated that we were very important. I even had ticket inspectors walk past me muttering "good morning sir". A friend who was a senior check and lived near Palm Beach ( a long bus trip if you don't know Sydney) was offered a seat at the rear of a bus and other passengers were instructed by the driver not to sit there.

So all you QF staff, you never know how this one will work out. there may be good yet although if there ever was an example of Qantas re inventing the wheel, I suspect the white hats are it. At least you don't have skydrol eating holes in the plastic tops like we did on the 707s.

Wunwing
Excellent! Free ice-creams all round!

LeadSled 24th Nov 2016 12:48

Folks,
Still have my first "white top" from 1967, although "cream" would be more accurate, now.
I remember well the "Charlie Jones" uniform, it was also the same as all the Comcar drivers, more than one Commonwealth pollie was "a little surprised" at the reply when they demanded their car of a pilot waiting for the crew bus.
Tootle pip!!

Ida down 29th Nov 2016 02:25


Originally Posted by mrdeux (Post 9535003)
I tried running over the cap with my Land Rover. It didn't improve it at all. Sadly.

We used to hose them first, then run over them with a tractor. Never failed.

Ida down 29th Nov 2016 02:26


Originally Posted by framer (Post 9535164)
It might be because they are made of aluminium. You should try a Hilux.

Tractor. Works a treat.

blow.n.gasket 15th Dec 2016 01:55

Any truth to the rumour that Martin Grant ,the designer of this uniform catastrophe is none other than the nephew of Lesley Grant Qantas CEO of loyalty.
Say it isn't so, please.
Would explain a lot ,if true, though!:eek:

framer 15th Dec 2016 03:19

I saw them the other day in the terminal, looked quite stylish in my opinion.


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