dragon man,
Sixteen degrees?
Where were you raised - southern Tasmania?

Having served as an office building superintendent, I can say that the optimum temperature for workers' productivity is 22deg C.
Relative humidity is also relevant.

Must agree with your "costume" comment, though.

Sorry, but I'm with dragon man on this one. A walk across the carpark in a short sleeved white shirt on a sunny 16 degree day and I'm sweating.

Same applies for ever airport terminal I've been in, they're always about 5 degrees warmer than I'd prefer, and that's without a jacket.

Walking across a "sunny" carpark at 16c will make normal people sweat......that bright burning thing in the sky will do it every time.:D

Now, being indoors with no Sun wind or rain 22c to 23c is ideal.

Wear your damned jacket!
Then stand yourself down for being too hot

according to the policy all QF pilots are allowed to have beards etc.

RENURPP that document also had QantasLink, Network and Cobham on the front page too...

Wrong.. On the Qantas mainline guide, it clearly says No beards allowed..

What I hate is sitting in the seat before departure and spelling the body odour and knowing il be like that for another 14/15 hours or worse.

Ok, fair enough. My point is my sweating threshold appears to be a lot lower than most, and if that's the temp they're maintaining in airports, then I wish they'd turn it down a few degrees... a few more if I'm wearing a jacket under duress.

50 years ago, as an engineering apprentice at QF, I was told by a jumped up never-come-down manager (not even one of my direct bosses) that "Qantas doesn't like its apprentices to have beards - get it off!" Since I'd looked at all the bumf they gave us when I joined and there was no mention of beards, I ignored him, until I joined the army, where I knew the policy and had no complaints (not that it would have helped if I had).
It seems that Charlie q hasn't changed. Why am I not surprised?

No reason, just a different generation of f*ckwits.

Why doesn't AIPA just advise Qantas the uniform policy will remain as it is at the moment.

In the distant past our uniform had long sleeve cotton shirts. Kinda hot in DEL & BOM etc. All that was necessary was to get a certificate from your GP that you needed short sleeves to mitigate heat stress. Problem solved. Lots of us did just that and within a few years we had optional short sleeve shirts. I counsel you all not to just defy the FAM.

I agree with you musta.
It would be folly to think a punitive response of some kind isn't awaiting the uniform recalcitrants.

Is anyone's memory that short that they don't remember the response to a few people wearing red ties back in Nov '11?

I once had a bit to do with a smaller company whose CEO, a bit of a strange one, would declare a new "company policy" every six months or so.
I couldn't help but wonder just what habits he indulged in outside of work hours.
Will mandatory, approved shades of cosmetics and hose be next for all Qantas crew?

What about if you are sporting an afro?

As they say, if the (Qantas) hat fits, wear it.

The problem is not just wearing the hat, it's getting it to stay on!

yes, you are correct, I didn't note Qantas or jet connect missing from the front page. Insanity.

Makes me consider growing a beard ��������

Jackets have been an issue in QF because of the current policy. The policy dictates that the Capt makes the decision whether or not they are worn, meaning that most crews will pack a bulky piece of clothing that may or may not be worn depending on the whim of the PIC.

This new policy gets rid of that. The new jacket is lighter, cooler and less bulky than the item it replaces. 95% of the time it will be worn from air-conditioned transport to air-conditioned terminal to air-conditioned aircraft etc etc, unless the temp is over 27 degrees.

It wont be a bulky item taking up space in luggage. Aesthetics aside, it is actually a sensible policy.

As has been said a few times now regarding various other elements or procedures when working for qantas...."They don't do that **** in short haul."

Departure status? Work it out yourself champ.