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A tale of 2 airlines.

One states "“Our customers have told us they want greater options and increased flexibility – and we’ve listened,”
Qantas has AJ

One 'continues to grow its network by launching pioneering nonstop routes '
Qantas introduces a nonstop route to an existing port.

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Cathay Pacific will connect Hong Kong with the capital of the United States of America for the first time in late 2018, as it continues to grow its network by launching pioneering nonstop routes.

The airline will commence a four-times-weekly service to Washington DC in September next year, which will complement its existing routes to the East Coast, including Boston and New York’s two main international airports – John F Kennedy and Newark Liberty.

The service to Dulles International Airport, which will become the longest on the Cathay Pacific network in terms of distance at 7,085 nautical miles (8,153 miles, 13,122 kilometres), will be operated by the all-new Airbus A350-1000 aircraft.

Cathay Pacific Chief Executive Officer Rupert Hogg said that the new service has been introduced to cater to the growing demand for travel to the Capital Region of the USA, while at the same time providing US-based passengers with more convenient access to key destinations in Asia and beyond through the airline’s home in Hong Kong.

“Our customers have told us they want greater options and increased flexibility – and we’ve listened,” said Mr Hogg. “Much like Hong Kong, Washington DC is a vibrant and dynamic destination and we are thrilled to soon be providing the only direct flights between these two great cities.

“Establishing new direct air links to destinations that aren’t already served from Hong Kong enhances our city’s status as Asia’s largest international hub and allows us to secure new and important sources of revenue,” he added.

And

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United Airlines will launch a new signature long-haul route from its hub at Houston Bush Intercontinental Airport.

The carrier says it plans to launch service to Sydney on Jan. 18, flying the 8,596-mile flight on Boeing 787-9 "Dreamliners." The route would become the second-longest flown by any U.S. airline and would be the only one connecting Houston to Australia. Flight time in the direction of Sydney is scheduled for 17 hours, 30 minutes, while the return to Houston is scheduled for 15 hours, 45 minutes.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/trave...lia/641076001/

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Originally Posted by 73to91 (Post 9996829)

One 'continues to grow its network by launching pioneering nonstop routes '
Qantas introduces a nonstop route to an existing port.

Read more:

Cathay Pacific to launch Washington DC service with the Airbus A350-1000 ·ETB Travel News Australia

I’m no AJ apologist but your post doesn’t make sense. Sure, CX launched a new route- QF are launching MEL- SFO with a couple of other (allegedly) new routes ex BNE yet to be announced. Heck, even PER- LHR is a new route.

You appear to cite UAL as an example of what QF isn’t doing but it seems to be exactly what QF have done. Launched a route between two ports they already service but which have never been connected.

What am I missing?

NEWSFLASH:
Qantas isn’t as big and expansionary as big airlines based in China (57 times larger population) or the USA (13 times larger).

What a shock.

Despite QF wanting us to believe they have been revolutionary, UA have been doing SIN to SFO I think it is, also with the 789 with sector times circa 17 hours.

Important to realise that if Oz - Europe non stop for QF is a big hit then the rest of the worlds carriers will run the flights the other way. AJ may call it a game changer but if it is then there will be others to follow. European airlines will be watching closely to see if they can copy the route. If that occurs why travel QF if someone does it cheaper or better?

So why is there overwhelming pessimism that this service won’t work? It’s already being done. Revolutionary or not, it is revolutionary for Qantas. And I personally believe it will work. Good luck to em, I say.

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Originally Posted by Icarus2001 (Post 9999079)

Probably because the cheaper and better airlines are based in Asia and the Middle East.

A British or European airline wanting to compete on the routes would very likely not be cheaper and better.

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Originally Posted by Icarus2001 (Post 9999079)

They can’t do it as they only have 5th and 6th freedom rights. Only British or Australian carriers can do direct services.

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Originally Posted by dragon man (Post 9999409)

They can’t do it as they only have 5th and 6th freedom rights. Only British or Australian carriers can do direct services.

I'm sure we can sign em up

Do we need another sports event sponsored - only if the board members are connected of course

Just give it all away eh

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Just give it all away eh

The Australian exceptionalism is a mirage. Australia has a lot of rocks, uncontaminated cropping and dairy regions and a delusion in the modern age not supported by much other than myth. Driven by an inept political class, the broader community too lazy to protest that an elected politician would in times of old be at least investigated for treason.

Viewed from afar, outside home market myopia Australia lost a lot to get where it is, what it gained isn't worth having.

As Qantas of old was a proud airline, with proud leaders of a solid resoluteness, the new Qantas resembles it in name only. Am sure if bilaterals were able to be profited on by a trade minister, Andrew Robb would have flogged them all off before he left the house!