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framer 1st Apr 2016 21:56

What did casa say about it?

ALAEA Fed Sec 2nd Apr 2016 06:00

Haven't told them yet. Thought we'd give Qantas plenty of opportunity to sort it out internally. A lot of talk and no action. I am sick of managers saying they put safety first when in reality they put it dead set last.

framer 2nd Apr 2016 06:32

I actually find it hard to believe but if it is true then the regulator needs to be involved regardless of how the company reacts.

Blitzkrieger 2nd Apr 2016 06:45

44 hours without rest is a reportable matter, not an industrial one.

LAME2 2nd Apr 2016 08:02

In my opinion, CASA will back QANTAS. CASA, again in my opinion, have never shown the willingness to follow through with tough actions against QANTAS. I don't understand why the engineers involved didn't pack up after 14 hours and go to the hotel, even if they had to pay for the rooms themselves, they can claim it back after the usual Management fight. I would have liked to have seen his actioned by FWA. I cannot see how FWA would go against the guys if they were then back at the job after a 10 hour break, after all QANTAS would put the position that employees have a part to play in Fatigue Management. This itself empowers the employees to call it a night and be back again after a 10 hour break.

ALAEA Fed Sec 2nd Apr 2016 09:48

There is so much pressure from management these days to get aircraft out at all costs it is downright dangerous, not only at Qantas. We've recently reported three incidents at Qantas where managers yell and order LAMEs to do things illegally and the airline couldn't give a damn.

framer 2nd Apr 2016 11:13


Qantas recently directed 8 Engineers to work 44
Directed is the key word I'm guessing, doesn't mean they did it....right ALAEA?


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