Game on. Turnbull quits Ministry, call for Leadership spill
 

Don't think it will change much in aviation but it might be the circuit breaker we need..

I fear, old mate, that aviation is a regional issue and regional issues will get short shrift in the new cabinet.

I am told the Nats hate Turnbull and vice versa.

Are you voting on Saturday?

Hopefully the new broom will install a Minister that has more than a passing interest in Aviation

Sunny,

Can you think of a Coalition Minister for Transport who wasn't Nationals leader?

...not in my lifetime.

edit: My mistake, Ralph Hunt was minister for Transport in the Fraser govt.... but he was deputy leader of the Country Party at the time.

No I can't, Civil Aviation has been very poorly served for more years than I care to remember, INTEREST has been the key, i.e. LACK of INTEREST (Truss) or CONFLICT of INTEREST (Albanese).

Perhaps John Sharp.

Folks,
In my opinion, both John Sharp and Mark Vaile were effective Ministers for Transport, but neither was in the job long enough to set their reforms in concrete.
Tootle pip!!

Been there, done that ! In my time we had five ministers of Transport in a little over five years. All did little or nothing for aviation. Solution : A Minister for Aviation.

The only thing the Australian politician knows about aviation, is that pretty dolly bird in the skirt will serve him a tea, coffee or beer on the flight to Canberra.

That folks sums up their knowledge of aviation in this country.

That quote came from Arthur Schutt, as I refuelled his C210 in 1988 in the NT.

RIP Arthur, you would turn in your grave at the lack of activity at YMMB these days!

If Turnbull is the solution, what's the problem again? Oh, that's right. A peoples forum on gay marriage, a carbon tax, unimpeded political interference by the national broadcaster, ... oh yes and another thing...

Not my bailiwick, but the LNP candidate is a good man, the ALP guy is a Labor apparatchik.

I have a pretty jaundiced view of the area, it is really fight between the kids pulling pigtails at the back of the class and those who failed comprehension.

If they fall for the litany of lies and bull**** being peddled by the saturation TV advertising by the CFMEU, then the pigtail pullers have won.

Todays news might just change the game.

If I were Tony I would be interrupting the GG's dinner tonight and asking for a DD and let us decide, and I really mean whichever way it goes, we can't complain if we haven't been paying attention.

It can't be any worse than what we've got

Of course BS is pooping himself because if he has to go back before the TURC its game over for him and gaol terms for many.

LeadSled
Goodness we actually agree on something. :E :O

The bankers need turnbull installed before December to ensure we get carbon trading in Oz. So it were now or never.

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So .. if Malcolm wins the ballot tonight, we go from being led by a w anker to being led by a banker .. in a party populated by (boat) anchors.

Seems like a re-arranging of the deck chairs on the HMAS Titanic to me ...

As a mate opined many years ago - "What we need is less politicians, and more Statesmen!"

I can't see a Statesman amongst any of them, no matter what party they profess to belong to. And that is probably where all the problems start.
They always put the good of "the party" before any national interest or long-term planning. :suspect:

First, free the Statesman from the chains of the Senate and the ABC..:hmm:

Until we get rid of the ABC we get the troubles we deserve.







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I fear for this Country. I really do!:sad:

We do not have any Statesmen, only chair warmers, time servers and supremely ambitious egotists.:ugh:

Never understood why a multi-millionaire would stay in politics...unless they want to become a multi-billionaire.

Turnbull is just a computer nerd who like a marionette was attached to copper wires being tugged on by Telstra. Can't see the Aviation industry offering him anything other than a gold wing membership.

Methinks it's all just his ego calling before he retires.

No, the alternative is Shorten by whichever means.


Poor fellow my country.

Well, we have a new PM - Malcolm shoos it in, 54 votes to 44. Julie Bishop is elected Deputy Leader of the Libs, 70 votes to 30, in preference to Kevin Andrews.
It will be interesting to see the makeup of the new Turnbull Cabinet tomorrow. I can't see Hockey still being Treasurer tomorrow.
It's going to be a long night for some people, as they ponder their new career, or their old one that just went out the window. :suspect:

wow 5 votes & we've really stuffed the country. Who do these idiots think they are. Voters should decide the PM, not some bloody party room. As bad as the unions & that's bloody terrible.

Turnbull's speach
 

I predict he's gonna say.........

I'm gonna............reduce taxes...........and, um...........create jobs, and............um.............um...............um........... ......


This country is stuffed.......

Frank, Either wash your mouth out with a good single malt, or, smile....
And have you forgotten already even, why we are in the current financial mess,
Aviation notwithstanding.....

And, yep! I too wish we had a MINISTER FOR AVIATION!!!

I.e. that's "FOR"..... Not just a lookin ******....

No cheers:eek:

Glad to see the mad monk go. Malcolm Turnbull is cleverer and weighed down by less religious baggage than Abbot. His main challenge now is to carry the rest of the coalition into a place where science is not a bad word, and where tolerance is in and bigotry out.

Banker boy has until December...:hmm:







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And in other news.........:hmm: the BBC have announced that the next 2 years will be the hottest on record, everywhere except the UK..where it will rain more.
I'm starting to compare Oz politics with Italian politics i.e. It's a joke.

Kennett nailed this one earlier today. Turnbull is the Liberal's KRudd. All about his ego and his achievements.

For all of Abbott's faults it was clear he was trying to do his best for the country. I've never gotten that impression with Turnbull.

Our nation is a joke politically. I think I'm moving to NZ. :ok: :}

Sure... why not.. I believe Jet* Regional are hiring... :p

Oh and another thing.. it sisk , not seesk, fish and not fiiiish... and we do not want the "guard police" emigrating over here.. a gentle ribbing in the form of "beer!!" is acceptable... "Your en guard".. is not...

:p :}

It must be the Theakston's Old Peculiar on this fine autumn afternoon, but I actually agree with the above comments.

Tootle pip!!

Absolute Disgrace
 

So what's the stupid exercise cost the taxpayer????

3rd time this has happened now, Australia must now be the laughing stock of the world!!!!

It's an Absolute Disgrace that the constitution allows this crap. The only people who should be able to make these decisions are the VOTERS.

EMTASOL..................................................... .........................................

Correct me if I am wrong but we haven't had a minister of Transport
since the """MINISTER FOR QANTAS - JOHN ANDERSON"" and his cronies stuffed Ansett Australia forever. Some of us have long memories !!!!!

Capt Kwack - harim tok bilong mi!

Far from being the laughing stock of the world, a majority of the World's nations wish they too had our Australian democracy and the ability to change leaders at any time. Including I suspect, the USA.

Until a true Statesman enters Australian federal politics, we are destined to have instability in Government and in leadership.

The only positive see is the departure from influence by Credlin who I believe insulated Abbott from the problems in aviation. I can't see Turnbull being a life line to industry either, but it may put the fox in the hen house with Mrdak and Co who may get their wings clipped.

Australia'a experiment with having a heartless moron running the country is now over. Thank God.

The Coal Industry, Rupert Murdoch and richest 10% in the country must be spewing?

biglanchow, perhaps yer being sarcastic, though, why do you think the "Coal Industry, Rupert Murdoch and richest 10% in the country must be spewing?" ?







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Coal Industry - Tony dumb dumb doesn't believe in climate change and thinks coal is the worlds answer for energy needs forever and a day.

Rupert Murdoch is extremely right wing just like Tony dumb dumb and does not want someone like Turnbull in charge because it may not suit the "agenda's" he pushes through his bile mascarading as Newspapers.

The richest 10% will be spewing beacause Tony and Hockey's budgets looked after them and middle Australia and the poor could take the pain to ensure the rich weren't touched. This may not be the case from here on in.

I am actually surprised I had to spell this out???

Heh, must be beer o'clock in the US..:)

biglanchow, your post is a little hard to understand.

Anyway, turnbull wont be stoping coal mining. Oz will be ramping up coal mining...

"...More than 1000 “high-efficiency” coal-fired electricity generation plants are planned or under construction in key Asian nations..."

Japan: Building coal plants is ?climate finance? | Watts Up With That?








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"So what's the stupid exercise cost the taxpayer????

3rd time this has happened now, Australia must now be the laughing stock of the world!!!!

It's an Absolute Disgrace that the constitution allows this crap. The only people who should be able to make these decisions are the VOTERS.

EMTASOL..................................................... ........................................"

Australia: Coup capital of the democratic world (Australia: Coup capital of the democratic world - BBC News)

Two lies in one sentence. That's a pretty neat trick.

He's always believed in climate change. He has issues with the degree it will impact, our ability to stop it (though it seems to have stopped all on its lonesome for the last 18 years), and the best way to respond to it.

Coal is cheap. It's the answer for millions living in poverty in China, India and much of Africa. He doesn't believe it's the answer 'forever and a day' but he's not going to blow billions on speculative crap when the cost outweighs the benefit by a significant margin.

But hey, calling him Tony dumb dumb must make you feel like a real big man. :ugh: :rolleyes:

The voters elected a party and the party elects its leader.

The fact is that Tony Abbott as leader tried to implement the things he promised he wouldn't do; and he didn't implement the things he promised he would.

His style was that of a very effective opposition leader, but he never made the transition to Prime Minister, as a leader of the nation.

Abbott didn't make the grade in the opinion of a great many Australians, and the Liberal party (to their credit) has replaced him with a man than a great many more Australians feel respect or affection for.

As some commentators have noted, it was Abbott, Rudd and Gillard that made Australian politics the brutal blood-bath of the post-Howard years.

I don't believe this is a wonderful clean new beginning but I have more hope for the standard of national debate today than I had at this time on Friday last week.

:ok:

Man made climate change, if that call is accurate, means we have a mankind problem. Overstocking the paddock in other words. Maybe a cull is called for and we could start with those who mirror the intelligence of a tame cabbage.


All the hyperventilating about the leadership of one party isn't doing anything for the aviation industry who, as usual will be left out of more pressing considerations like gay marriage, a republic and trading of green climate cards.

More hope Horatio than one had on Monday morning. I can feel the hope and I'm not even a follower (of the party). :ok: