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Who stole my meds 30th Jan 2022 22:46


Originally Posted by freshy1234 (Post 11177398)
They "dropped it" but it is still an important filter for them to pull apps for review.

Not surprising, but entirely their right to do so.

atpcliff 31st Jan 2022 07:05

Atlas Air is hiring Aussies...

ZebraFlyer 31st Jan 2022 09:28

Probably sound incredibly ungrateful after the last 2 years but am still tempted to give up a narrowbody gig in Oz with all the E3 positions on offer, especially with some willing to sponsor a green card.. or could be exciting to get in at somewhere like Breeze in the early days..

DropYourSocks 31st Jan 2022 10:33


Originally Posted by ZebraFlyer (Post 11177639)
Probably sound incredibly ungrateful after the last 2 years but am still tempted to give up a narrowbody gig in Oz with all the E3 positions on offer, especially with some willing to sponsor a green card.. or could be exciting to get in at somewhere like Breeze in the early days..

I did exactly what you're thinking of doing in 2018, although I knew there'd be a green card in my future, so the gamble wasn't really that bad. But the thought of 10-15 years to a command on a 737 and flying to the same 12 cities for the rest of my life made the choice easy.

umop apisdn 31st Jan 2022 11:24


Originally Posted by ZebraFlyer (Post 11177639)
Probably sound incredibly ungrateful after the last 2 years but am still tempted to give up a narrowbody gig in Oz with all the E3 positions on offer, especially with some willing to sponsor a green card.. or could be exciting to get in at somewhere like Breeze in the early days..

I'd say keep your gig in Aus and simultaneously apply for the DV lottery every October. If something comes through for you, then consider the move.

The people going to Breeze are definitely taking a shot, and good on them if it works out, to be sub 100 seniority at Jetblue 2.0 could be pretty awesome. It would be an adventure for sure. If you're single, a greencard probably is in your future.

I'd say an LCC here is better than working for Qantas / Jetstar (given the outsider knowldge I have of the job,) but a regional here is not better than working for any narrowbody operator in Aus.

bafanguy 3rd Feb 2022 17:02

This popped up again this morning:

“We are pleased to inform you we are seeking Current and Non-Current Australian Captains and First Officers to fly the E145 jet aircraft and invite you to attend online interviews!”



https://jobs.flightglobal.com/job/14...mpaign=general

Climb150 3rd Feb 2022 17:55


Originally Posted by bafanguy (Post 11179375)
This popped up again this morning:

“We are pleased to inform you we are seeking Current and Non-Current Australian Captains and First Officers to fly the E145 jet aircraft and invite you to attend online interviews!”



https://jobs.flightglobal.com/job/14...mpaign=general

To qualify for all the bonuses you must flow to American. That's difficult when you don't have a US green card or passport. They forget to mention this in the job advertisement.

bafanguy 3rd Feb 2022 18:19

Climb150,

I wondered about that. Haven't seen any evidence (yet) E3s are flowing to AA mainline. :)

havick 4th Feb 2022 04:26


Originally Posted by bafanguy (Post 11179419)
Climb150,

I wondered about that. Haven't seen any evidence (yet) E3s are flowing to AA mainline. :)

Guess we will find out pretty soon.

a few of the PDT hires in 2016/17 should be getting close to flow.

DropYourSocks 4th Feb 2022 15:15

Spirit has announced E3s for those who are in country already on an E3 with an ATP. Announced by a recruiter on LinkedIn. Good luck everyone and have at it.

Climb150 4th Feb 2022 15:50


Originally Posted by havick (Post 11179591)
Guess we will find out pretty soon.

a few of the PDT hires in 2016/17 should be getting close to flow.

You can't flow to AA on an E3

havick 5th Feb 2022 08:44


Originally Posted by Climb150 (Post 11179831)
You can't flow to AA on an E3

You can, just hasn’t been tested yet.

Climb150 5th Feb 2022 21:37


Originally Posted by havick (Post 11180101)
You can, just hasn’t been tested yet.

You mean it's possible but nobody has done it?

If AA has made an undertaking to flow it's E3 pilots working for their wholy owned regionals I have not heard about it.


Punchbowl 6th Feb 2022 08:34

Gidday all, first time long time. I'm wondering if those in the know can share their thoughts on which operators currently offering initial E3 sponsorships they would recommend the highest. Not Including Atlas and Breeze pls.

I am going through the interview process with one group over there and chatting to a few others directly through their recruitment teams.

Which of those regionals do you guys think are in the strongest position? And the weakest? For example I have heard some concerns about GoJet's position and future.

Cheers!

bafanguy 6th Feb 2022 11:48


Originally Posted by Climb150 (Post 11180368)
You mean it's possible but nobody has done it?

Have any E3s been at an AA wholly-owned regional long enough to be in a position to flow ?

Abroad145 6th Feb 2022 18:15


Originally Posted by Punchbowl (Post 11180472)
Gidday all, first time long time. I'm wondering if those in the know can share their thoughts on which operators currently offering initial E3 sponsorships they would recommend the highest. Not Including Atlas and Breeze pls.

I am going through the interview process with one group over there and chatting to a few others directly through their recruitment teams.

Which of those regionals do you guys think are in the strongest position? And the weakest? For example I have heard some concerns about GoJet's position and future.

Cheers!

PSA. Forget the rest of them.


tossbag 6th Feb 2022 18:56

You can probably overthink the 'which regional' thing. Weigh up what you want, the staff travel will be better with wholly owned for example, if staff travel doesn't float your boat maybe the bases do? Commutairs pay is significantly lower than most of the rest but in the end, they're all much of a muchness. PSA's QOL is said to be better than the rest.

havick 6th Feb 2022 23:36


Originally Posted by bafanguy (Post 11180539)
Have any E3s been at an AA wholly-owned regional long enough to be in a position to flow ?

There’s a small batch at PDT circa 2016/17 hires that will be getting close.

havick 6th Feb 2022 23:37


Originally Posted by Climb150 (Post 11180368)
You mean it's possible but nobody has done it?

If AA has made an undertaking to flow it's E3 pilots working for their wholy owned regionals I have not heard about it.

That’s because no E3 has been around long enough for their seniority number to have come up yet. Next 6-12 months will give a fairly definitive answer one way or the other as to how it will pan out.

To say it won’t happen is disingenuous as know one really knows. It could go either way.

Kenny 7th Feb 2022 01:54

H,

With respect, I think that’s an oversimplified view. While I agree that you can’t say that E3’s definitely won’t flow, it’s certainly more unlikely than it is likely. We had this discussion the last time flow of E3’s came up and I still believe it’s more than likely AAG hasn’t even considered the prospect of E3’s in their interview stack. It’s something they’ll only have to consider, when the first one’s number comes up. UAL, while it doesn’t have any flow agreements has recently changed its requirements to “does not need sponsorship” from “legal right to live and work in the US”. This is because ALPA is involved and aware of E3’s.

I would be surprised if the APA doesn’t get involved in the same way. Sure, I may not know the nuts and bolts of it but I would bet my next paycheck on what the general sentiment would be amongst AA pilots if they are made aware that AAG was hiring “foreigners on visas”


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