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going_up 3rd Sep 2017 12:50


Originally Posted by Capt Fathom (Post 9881047)
going_up = Aus_Phenom100 ?

I've got an idea! Once again, I'm defending myself! PM me for my contact details and I'll chat with you. Hopefully Aus_phenom100 gives you his details also so we can shut your BS accusation along with the others.

Better yet, tell me what you want me to do to prove that your negative BS is just that, BS! Check your PM now, I've messaged you. Why not just say that I am also everyone with a "I'm new here" sign. Maybe NP12345? Jethopper? C'mon! Keep those unjustified assumptions coming!

What the hell is this? Seriously! Good news is that I just want to say thanks to the many who actually PM'd me with supportive messages and questions. Keep the questions coming. That is what this forum is for, answering your questions and getting in contact with those that can offer a helping hand

Aus_Phenom100 3rd Sep 2017 12:54


Originally Posted by going_up (Post 9881017)
Aus_Phenom109, awesome to see. Credit where credit is due. Skywest' HR has got this thing down pat. The good thing is that they have all gone thru specific training and understand the E3. Skywest does have a great name and reputation. They tend to be proactive in their approach, hence being the first airline here with an E3 visa stream/pathway.

Congrats on the new job! Are you on the CRJ or ERJ fleet? Ground school is fast paced compared to what we are use but home, but the instructors hold extra classes if needed. I recommend getting into a study group with say two or three others. You can kind of lean on each other for help and allocate sections of the homework to complete and then get together to share and educate others in your group on the homework sections you competed. This is encouraged and you will be briefed about this method of study once you start ground school. It's an exciting road ahead! I'm sure you will love it! I've found it to be rewarding both financially and personally.

Welcome to the US skies!

Thanks mate. They certainly are onto it. They have been great so far.

I initially accepted an offer on the ERJ which was my preference already being type rated on an Embraer aircraft. However, the airline contacted me and informed me that there will be an 'up to 3-4 months' wait for the ERJ. With that they offered me the CRJ to get me over and flying straight away.

I am looking forward to the training. Having gone through a pretty fast paced Type Rating and Multi Crew course for the Phenom, (not quite CRJ size but the systems all seem similar) I am sure I will be ok if I apply the same dedication to study, flows, systems, SOP's and recall items etc.

Are you on the ERJ or CRJ?

Aus_Phenom100 3rd Sep 2017 12:59


Originally Posted by Capt Fathom (Post 9881047)
going_up = Aus_Phenom100 ?

Hi Capt Fathom, I am in no way connected to going_up. I am happy to give you my details.

My post was based on my experience and I totally understand that others will have their own experience that may or may not be similar.

going_up 3rd Sep 2017 15:06


Originally Posted by Aus_Phenom100 (Post 9881126)
Thanks mate. They certainly are onto it. They have been great so far.

I initially accepted an offer on the ERJ which was my preference already being type rated on an Embraer aircraft. However, the airline contacted me and informed me that there will be an 'up to 3-4 months' wait for the ERJ. With that they offered me the CRJ to get me over and flying straight away.

I am looking forward to the training. Having gone through a pretty fast paced Type Rating and Multi Crew course for the Phenom, (not quite CRJ size but the systems all seem similar) I am sure I will be ok if I apply the same dedication to study, flows, systems, SOP's and recall items etc.

Are you on the ERJ or CRJ?

You made the right choice heading over to the CRJ. The ERJ is awesome, but the quality of life is not so great while being junior on the ERJ. With the CRJ, your reserve time is next to nothing. My buddy just went thru his training is holding a line straight off IOE.

Sorry for the use of such terms. Let me explain. you will first complete your CTP, following that you will do indoc and CRJ or ERJ ground school. Then comes the sims. You will do your Manoeuvres training in the same first, followed by the validation (Maneuverers validation). The last part is LOFT (Line orientated flight training) concluding with the LOE (Your type rating and ATP check ride)

Once you finish your training at SLC (CRJ) or DEN (ERJ) you will then move to your domicile and wait to start line training (IOE - Initial Operating Experience) with a check airmen (check captain). Once you are all signed off and complete your IOE, you will most likely sit reserve. Reserve is basically "on call"
The standard reserve call out is 2 hours. Ready reserve has you at the airport and requires you to be at the gate within 15 minutes of being called.
Once you are senior enough, you hold a line and bid for a schedule. How long until you can hold a line? This varies on where you are based and what aircraft. My buddy just finished his IOE and can bid to hold a line in less than a month.

Hope this helps!

Aus_Phenom100 3rd Sep 2017 15:15


Originally Posted by going_up (Post 9881269)
Sorry for the use of such terms. Let me explain. you will first complete your CTP, following that you will do indoc and CRJ or ERJ ground school. Then comes the sims. You will do your Manoeuvres training in the same first, followed by the validation (Maneuverers validation). The last part is LOFT (Line orientated flight training) concluding with the LOE (Your type rating and ATP check ride)

Thanks for the insight mate. Again, you have expressed the same sentiments of the others I know there.

How did you find the training? Any hints or tips?

going_up 3rd Sep 2017 16:00


Originally Posted by Aus_Phenom100 (Post 9881279)
Thanks for the insight mate. Again, you have expressed the same sentiments of the others I know there.

How did you find the training? Any hints or tips?

I'll PM you my email. I'll send you some good study notes for the CRJ.

Tips? Just be prepared to study a heap! lol. It is actually a really enjoyable course. Although it sounds silly, but don't under estimate doing your groceries. There is literally nothing near the training hanger food wise in SLC.

But other than bringing a good positive study attitude, I think there is not much too it. They run a solid course with great outcomes. Enjoy the road and hopefully I'll be flying with you once you're online.

Kenny 3rd Sep 2017 23:37


Originally Posted by mohikan (Post 9879981)
How many E3 australian pilots are members of US ALPA I wonder ?

Unlike "Tall poppy" Australia, if they're working for an ALPA carrier, they're dues paying members of ALPA.

Also, while I'm very staunchly pro-ALPA, we've long passed the point on the bell curve where regional airline pilot wages were a stumbling block to attracting new pilots. We've now got to a point now where the effects of those low wages in years gone by, mean that the pilots simply don't exist in the numbers neede by the regional airlines. Certainly not with the legacy carriers hoovering them up in the numbers they have been.

Employing a few Australians on E3 visas is simply a band aid.

Lastly, while I'm no fan of Skywest, their success over the last 17 years is due, in no small part to the fact that they actually treat their people well. They have a well run, professional operation and to question that or their safety shows complete ignorance of the landscape in the USA.

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.

Alex3008 4th Sep 2017 09:18

Compass Airline
 
Looks like Compass Airline is also hiring on E3 visa. Apparently their First Officer pay is the highest in the regional ​airline industry, at $41.00 per flight hour!

http://www.compassairline.com/career...a-Holders.aspx

gogga1 6th Sep 2017 10:00

Visa finally approved:ok: time to work on my American accent now!
I'll have to do a MECIR renewal before I head over. Not looking for shortcuts but any ideas where I can get away with a cheap'ish renewal. Ill have to fly from South Africa to Australia, do MECIR renewal and then fly to the US. This is going to cost a bit so looking to safe some $ where I can. Preferably a place where I can do the two approaches in the aircraft and the rest of the IPC in the sim. I heard a lot about Whitworth Aviation for renewals.

hillbillybob 6th Sep 2017 10:50


Originally Posted by gogga1 (Post 9883731)
This is going to cost a bit so looking to safe some $ where I can. Preferably a place where I can do the two approaches in the aircraft and the rest of the IPC in the sim. I heard a lot about Whitworth Aviation for renewals.

if you are stopping in perth I was pretty impressed by thunderbird in may, brisbane I have had a good run with redcliffe aero club

gogga1 6th Sep 2017 13:19

Thanks. I will have a look at those.


Originally Posted by hillbillybob (Post 9883775)
if you are stopping in perth I was pretty impressed by thunderbird in may, brisbane I have had a good run with redcliffe aero club


scrum 7th Sep 2017 04:03


Originally Posted by gogga1 (Post 9883731)
Visa finally approved:ok: time to work on my American accent now!
I'll have to do a MECIR renewal before I head over. Not looking for shortcuts but any ideas where I can get away with a cheap'ish renewal. Ill have to fly from South Africa to Australia, do MECIR renewal and then fly to the US. This is going to cost a bit so looking to safe some $ where I can. Preferably a place where I can do the two approaches in the aircraft and the rest of the IPC in the sim. I heard a lot about Whitworth Aviation for renewals.

Was in a similar position to you a few years back and did the renewal with Bill. He is great and got me through in a day.

gogga1 7th Sep 2017 04:51

cheers scrum,

I reckon Bill will work out the best/cheapest because that saves even more money as oppose to traveling to Brissy, Perth Adelaide etc.


Originally Posted by scrum (Post 9884563)
Was in a similar position to you a few years back and did the renewal with Bill. He is great and got me through in a day.


pilotchute 7th Sep 2017 11:41

Why are you doing a renewal? Im pretty sure you just have to have held an mecir for the atp check ride. It doesnt have to be current. The atp check is your instrument rating check too.

gogga1 7th Sep 2017 12:27

Thanks, I'm getting lots of messages with regards to your exact statement. I will probably have confirmation this afternoon, fingers crossed as that will safe me heaps of $. Ill keep you guys posted maybe there is someone in the same situation as me.


Originally Posted by pilotchute (Post 9884923)
Why are you doing a renewal? Im pretty sure you just have to have held an mecir for the atp check ride. It doesnt have to be current. The atp check is your instrument rating check too.


going_up 7th Sep 2017 20:49


Originally Posted by gogga1 (Post 9884971)
Thanks, I'm getting lots of messages with regards to your exact statement. I will probably have confirmation this afternoon, fingers crossed as that will safe me heaps of $. Ill keep you guys posted maybe there is someone in the same situation as me.

I know you asked me earlier, sorry for being a little slow. I must give credit to gogga for finding this one! I just verified things. First of all, great find man!

Since CASA no has Part 61, the CASA CIR no longer has an annual expiry. It is now the exact same as the US in that you now essentially only maintain currency. Previous issues we had were applicants having expired CIRs which was a problem once upon a time. So long story short, no longer required to do an IPC.

That being said, it is HIGHLY RECOMMENDED that you arrive current. I doubt that most Aussies coming across have jet hours. Generally speaking, not being current and attempting to complete a dense fast pace jet course with Skywest does not give you a good chance to succeed. The regional airlines over here are fairly accommodating, but the chances of someone being cut due to a poor instrument scan early in training as opposed to someone being cut towards the end of training after the airline has already invested so much? Definitely more likely. They will help with the handling of the jet, it's all a new thing for most. But they will not teach IF scanning. I cannot stress enough of how important arriving current will be of major benefit. At the end of the day, it's the least a applicant can do. Even if it involves flying a fasca or something. Not necessary forking out heaps of $$$ for an IPC.

Great find gogga!:ok:

mohikan 7th Sep 2017 23:05

Have confirmed through multiple accounts that going_up is not the first Australian to work as an airline pilot in the US. The aforementioned individual who lived and worked in Anchorage was.

One wonders why this is so important to going_up. One wonders why going_up is so hell bent on selling a job to vulnerable Australian pilots that pays less then many GA jobs (36K per year for 900 hours by my maths)

Could it be that going_up is not actually a pilot in the US ? Could it be that he is actually a HR worker for one of the aforementioned US carriers that over the years have been complicit in disgraceful exploitation of Pilots such that nearly all of them working in the regional jet space needed second jobs just to eat ?

Could it be that he is just trolling for sign on commission ?

Regardless much of what he has posted here is sh1t. Like I said before. Buyer beware.

hillbillybob 8th Sep 2017 00:38

i thought the claim was he was the first Airline pilot on the E3 (established around 2005 out of the US/AU FTA)

Jet Hopper 8th Sep 2017 01:52

Who cares Mohikan, stop with the whining already and move on.

pilotchute 8th Sep 2017 02:56

Mohikan,

Regional guys will earn at least 45k USD per year now. Thats bout 60k aussie. Cost of living is less than Oz so stop spreading nonsense.

Have you even been to the USA?


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