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b787q300 30th Jul 2015 19:08

Jetstart NZ Regional - Captains & F/O's
 
Jobs - Job Details - DHC-8 Captains and First Officers

Ollie Onion 31st Jul 2015 07:39

Always good to see new jobs into the market, will be interesting to see the pay on offer for quite significant hour requirements and of course where the base(s) will be.

DeltaT 31st Jul 2015 09:26

Pay for your own type rating, and interview assessment by the looks.
Watch out for the Psychometric testing con - great for making money for the airline

alidad 31st Jul 2015 11:17

The High School requirement will preclude most of NZ........:eek: Kindergarten was the six hardest years.............

The Green Goblin 31st Jul 2015 11:59

That is pure gold alidad, and so true :)

ANZ even recognise ATPLs as a substitute for high school graduation.

FoolCorsePich 31st Jul 2015 12:08

A bit of love perhaps starting to filter through to the real heavy single drivers? 250 hours multi or turbine >3000kg.

Corkey McFuz 31st Jul 2015 19:43

PYO Type rating, low turboprop wages trying to live in Auckland ??

Good luck.

Shame about the education requirements, that will knock many good candidates out particularly captains.

M sure there will be plenty of applicants from Oz wanting to flood NZ aviation some more so they will probably fill the seats one way or another...

c100driver 31st Jul 2015 20:14


Perhaps some Air Nelson Pilots might jump ship due to base closures (If J* open regional bases)?
The advertisement does say that the location is Auckland!

waren9 31st Jul 2015 21:35


and so true
how so?


ANZ even recognise ATPLs as a substitute for high school graduation.
facile.

27/09 31st Jul 2015 22:25

Having to pay for your ASIC really shows the calibre of the operation. What else do you have to pay for?

They might pick up a few FO's however with the rumoured potential Air NZ recruitment it's my guess guys and girls that meet their requirements are likely to hold out for an Air NZ Link job.

I've heard there's a few disgruntled Captains at Ar Nelson but I'd be surprised they'd jump ship just to live in Auckland. The deal would have to be pretty good.

Otherwise I wouldn't think too many non type rated guys and girls with 1000 hours P in C on aircraft over 13,0000Kg are going to want to pay for a Dash 8 type rating or equivalent.

waren9 31st Jul 2015 22:42

are there still any ex air nsn dash8 guys up in png?

Killer Loop 1st Aug 2015 01:38

Still four at PX.

Kiwiconehead 1st Aug 2015 02:40


Having to pay for your ASIC really shows the calibre of the operation. What else do you have to pay for?
I think that actually applies across the entire Qantas group, not just the cheap seats.

Lookleft 1st Aug 2015 03:32


I think that actually applies across the entire Qantas group, not just the cheap seats.
No it doesn't.

Don't fall for the old line "they will never get any pilots if they are offering those conditions." Thats what was said about Jetstar when it first started. There are lots of circumstances that will motivate pilots to take a job, even one with low pay and conditions.

Popgun 1st Aug 2015 07:25


There are lots of circumstances that will motivate pilots to take a job, even one with low pay and conditions.
Wise words indeed.

PG

wantobe 1st Aug 2015 23:03

People have paid for type rating and P2F for much much worse pay/conditions/carriers off shore.

This will be somewhat of a luxury.

NoN1 4th Aug 2015 06:02

Does is actually say you have to pay for a rating?

Ollie Onion 4th Aug 2015 06:15

I am not sure you will have to pay for the rating, the rating and training will be supplied by Qlink in Oz and the new Jetstar EBA no longer requires you to pay for a rating so I doubt you will have to here. Be prepared to be bonded though.

flyboy_nz 4th Aug 2015 10:57

Maybe a case of salary deduction to pay for type rating? But then again, what's the salary going to be like for FOs? Auckland is not cheap.

haughtney1 4th Aug 2015 11:33


But then again, what's the salary going to be like for FOs? Auckland is not cheap.
Why would pornstar give 2 sh1ts about the cost of housing in AKL? You can live in your car and take a shower at your aunties place in Pokeno....
My point is, they will pay as little as possible, and 20 years ago, I'd have said yes please!

A320 Flyer 4th Aug 2015 11:34

Jetstar EBA
 
You can forget about the Jetstar EBA... There are no provisions for turboprops on it even IF they wanted everyone on the same agreement.... That's the whole reason the NZ agreement was set up. Divide and conquer.

Ollie Onion 4th Aug 2015 22:51

Not suggesting they will be on the Jetstar EBA, just saying the company wide culture has changed so that people are now bonded instead of paying upfront for type ratings. Word on the street is that the Turbo prop pilots will be employed by Jetstar NZ and that NZALPA have been approached for a variation to the current CEA to include a turboprop scale.

So as a job this might not be too bad, you may find a route to the A320 after a bit of time on the turboprops. I have no doubt there will be plenty of applicants for the FO positions, they may struggle for the CP spots though.

wantobe 29th Aug 2015 11:23

Pilat has it spot on.

ijustwannaflyplease 3rd Sep 2015 03:52

Seems like a pretty sweet deal. Thanks for the info halfpast3.. Has anyone done the sim yet? Any hints?

DeltaT 3rd Sep 2015 08:43


Some Facts from someone who knows.
Why are they taking on pilots with experience less than their advertised minimums?

VH-VIN 3rd Sep 2015 19:31

Maybe because the ones with the hours can't pass the Online psychometric testing!!!

ChappyNZ 4th Sep 2015 21:27

Does anyone have an idea of what technical questions they are asking? Similar to ANZ?

HercFeend 5th Sep 2015 22:02

So, is the consensus that J* are sending the 'Psychometric Assessment' inventions out to everyone (irrespective of their chances of getting through) in order to make n x $187?

RHSandLovingIt 5th Sep 2015 22:03

I feel left out if that is the case... No response so far :P

wishiwasupthere 6th Sep 2015 01:35


So, is the consensus that J* are sending the 'Psychometric Assessment' inventions out to everyone (irrespective of their chances of getting through) in order to make n x $187?
The fee is charged by SHL, not Jetstar.

HercFeend 6th Sep 2015 03:06

Yes, absolutely nothing new, and I agree that the candidate shouldn't have to pay - at least I've never had to before!!

Ollie Onion 6th Sep 2015 06:23

Simple, don't pay!

Got the horn 21st Sep 2015 02:48

It's good to see that Auntie Koru isn't the only game in town again. It's been a while!

Joystick jokey 21st Sep 2015 08:54

Jetstar Dash 8 FO
 
Hi there,

Was just wondering if anyone has been or knows of people who have been, sent for Sim/ Interview for FO positions yet?

DeltaT 22nd Sep 2015 07:49

They have been interviewing since the start of the month, and some have already started type training.

Joystick jokey 23rd Sep 2015 04:59

Sounds like they aren't hanging around then!

Has anyone got any information about More specifics for the tech questions and also the simulator profile?

Going Nowhere 23rd Sep 2015 05:01

I don't think anyone for NZ has started the endorsement.

There's currently a few ground schools for QLink for the Q200/300 but doubt there is any capacity in the training department for NZ ops at the moment.

DeltaT 23rd Sep 2015 09:02

In Melbourne I believe.

Ollie Onion 24th Sep 2015 07:34

I believe there are 6 new hire FO's who have just commenced. Money is Air Nelson year 1 rate. Based in AKL, plan at the moment is 3 sector days and night stopping at regional locations. Qlink Check CP's and Trainers being offered 1,2 and 4 week blocks in NZ. Or so I hear.

NoseGear 24th Sep 2015 10:47

Ollie, is that because they couldn't get Command applicants? I would've thought they would have, I was very close to sending in a CV myself. Lots of guys around the world wanting at some stage to get home.


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