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Jetstar cancels Bali flights due to Mt Raung volcanic ash cloud heading for Denpasar

Updated 19 minutes agoFri 3 Jul 2015, 7:41am


Map: Bali

Jetstar has cancelled flights in and out of Bali as an ash cloud from a volcanic eruption in Indonesia drifts towards Denpasar International Airport.
Return flights to and from Cairns, Perth, Melbourne and Sydney, and one way flights to and from Singapore, Adelaide and Darwin are affected.
In a statement on its website, the airline said passengers on rescheduled or cancelled flights would be notified by Jetstar or their travel agent directly and provided with options to fly on alternative services.
Overnight, two Jetstar flights were turned back three hours into their journey.
The airline is planning to issue an update once it is daylight in Indonesia.
The ABC believes that Qantas staff in Darwin are preparing to announce delays.
There are no disruption notices from other airlines including Virgin Australia, AirAsia X and Garuda, which are continuing to fly at this stage.
Mt Raung, on nearby Java, erupted on Sunday, with airline pilots reporting ash at 3,500 metres.

2 many abv. in title dude

I think the story is more important than the grammar. Not worth worrying about!!!

Irony.Look it up :p

I used to fly past Mt Raung when doing the Surabaya to Bali run. Here it is back in 2012 when it was smoking. We're at FL150 if I remember correctly. Mt Raung peaks at about 11,000 ft.

http://i.imgur.com/omkV7yK.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/5hG9J43.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/QTYxlbT.jpg

Training Wheels
 

Quite impressive and great photos. It must look incredible when it erupts it's ash cloud.
Strange that Jetstar have CX flights but VA have not , at least not yet .
I hope that's not too many abbreviations for some people!!!

How quickly things change.
Jetstar have now resumed flights.

raung updates
 

Received FVAU0405 at 06:34 UTC, 03/07/15 from ADRM
VA ADVISORY
DTG: 20150703/0633Z
VAAC: Darwin

VOLCANO: Raung 263340
PSN: S0807 E11402
AREA: Indonesia
SUMMIT ELEV: 3332M

ADVISORY NR: 2015/12
INFO SOURCE: MODIS-TERRA, MTSAT, CVGHM, PIREP
AVIATION COLOUR CODE: ORANGE
ERUPTION DETAILS: VA OBS AT 03/0532Z 15NM TO SE TO FL150.

OBS VA DTG: 03/0630Z
OBS VA CLD:
SFC/FL150 S0810 E11400 - S0820 E11420 - S0800 E11420 -
S0810 E11400 MOV SE 10KT

FCST VA CLD +6HR: 03/1230Z
SFC/FL150 S0810 E11400 - S0820 E11420 - S0800 E11420 - S0810 E11400
FCST VA CLD +12HR: 03/1830Z
SFC/FL150 S0810 E11400 - S0820 E11420 - S0800 E11420 - S0810 E11400
FCST VA CLD +18HR: 04/0030Z
SFC/FL150 S0810 E11400 - S0820 E11420 - S0800 E11420 - S0810 E11400

RMK: VA OBS ON MTSAT VIS IMAGERY AT 03/0532Z 15NM TO ESE AND ON
MODIS-TERRA AT 03/0245Z. PIREP AT 03/0540Z REPORTS THIN ASH
COLUMN TO FL150. CVGHM ADVISE ASH 200M ABOVE SUMMIT. HEIGHT
ADJUSTED DUE TO PIREP. **USE TEXT ADVISORY FOR FLIGHT PLANNING**
NXT ADVISORY: NO LATER THAN 20150703/1230Z

Not strange at all. Be reminded they flew a A320 through the ash last year, 2 new expensive engines later sounds like they have learnt their lesson :ok:

Those 2 engines are back in service. No major damage found to any of its components after thorough inspection @ IAE.:ok:

I overheard on BN CTR a JQ flight bound for Bali divert to Darwin (I think), about an hour ago so perhaps it's got worse?

Appears all Australian carriers have diverted and cancelled.

Asian carriers continue operations though.

Beer Baron Hi,

It was JQ47 ex BNE a 7Late7 .They weren't happy the pax,story on all the BNE news channels tonight.

OH WELL!

Volcanic
 

Always amazes me Aussie operations cancel other go.

Air Asia still flying Jetstar not. Must make it hard to explain to pax!

I'd much prefer the erring on the side of safety.

Just need screen the famous BA747 ash encounter in the waiting room!

LATEST AND FINAL UNTIL IT BURBS AGAIN...... RATHER BE LOOKING AT THE AREA IN THE DAYLIGHT RATHER THAN GROPING AROUND IN THE DARK. :D

Received FVAU04 at 07:15 UTC, 04/07/15 from ADRM
VA ADVISORY
DTG: 20150704/0708Z
VAAC: DARWIN

VOLCANO: RAUNG 263340
PSN: S0807 E11402
AREA: INDONESIA
SUMMIT ELEV: 3332M

ADVISORY NR: 2015/18
INFO SOURCE: MTSAT-2, CVGHM, PIREP, HIMAWARI
AVIATION COLOUR CODE: ORANGE
ERUPTION DETAILS: VA LAST OBS AT 04/0450Z EXT 30NM TO SE

OBS VA DTG: 04/0700Z
OBS VA CLD: VA NOT IDENTIFIABLE FM SATELLITE DATA
WIND SFC/FL150 290/15KT

FCST VA CLD +6HR: 04/1300Z
NO VA EXP
FCST VA CLD +12HR: 04/1900Z
NO VA EXP
FCST VA CLD +18HR: 05/0100Z
NO VA EXP

RMK: CURRENT SAT IMAGERY INDICATES ASH FROM RAUNG HAS NOW
DISSIPATED, HOWEVER VOLCANIC TREMOR ACTIVITY IS STILL HIGH.
ADVISORY TERMINATED.
NXT ADVISORY: NO FURTHER ADVISORIES.

AT LEAST IT IS ON THE SIG WX CHART TODAY. WASN'T YESTERDAY.


Australia Significant Weather (SIGWX)

JQ 37 landing 2 hrs after advisory
 

The rules must have changed. JQ37 is at TOD for DPS 110 minutes after the latest update, which looks the same as the previous 2 stand downs.

VA 70 also departed 60 minutes after the advisory.

Volcanic Ash Graphics

Meloz

Ash
 

No more delays?

Heard it's rumbling again? More delays at busy times?

Or just book Asian Airlines?

:O:O:O

Virgin and JQ flights cancelled again due to activity.

Is there any particular reason why other airlines are still flying in and around Bali?

Do they not take their safety regulations as serious as Australia?

Any insight would be appreciated. I have a relative over there who is considering flying with another airline, but I have told her to stay put and travel with an Australian carrier.

Flights cancelled
 

So how are airlines operating into Bali?

An honest question as I see J* and V cancelled again, yet the Asian carriers persisting.

Latest satellite imagery has the entire island covered. Now I realize it may not be thick ash however if its forecast to be there how can you operate into it?

Maybe no problems today or tomorrow but when time comes for engine inspection?

What am I missing? I'm dumbfounded.

Australia too safe or too cautious? I don't think so. But how can airlines validate flying into it?

Volcanic Ash Graphics

Flights Cancelled
 

Global Aviator


I'm with you. I have family members scheduled to fly from Sydney to Bali on Sunday via Garuda. So far as I can see, Garuda flights are still operating. I'm concerned for their safety. If there's a risk to public safety, why aren't all carriers cancelling flights?

Bali is clear, no ash at all. Coming from Australia you should be to the south of it all the time.

The ash cloud is not that high, or dense.

Thanks swh. It's still not clear to me why J* and V should cancel.

I guess VA and JQ have made their beds now they need to sleep in them.

The VAAC forecast ash was well north of DPS up to FL 170. All Asian Airlines including SQ CX MH EK etc operated quite safely into DPS today.

Must be costing VA JQ quite a packet.


Update----the latest VAAC forecast is overhead DPS up to FL 170 so fair enough they cancel. Now what are other Airlines doing including mine??? Mmm

Problem is J* and V err on the side of caution. Ash cloud within X miles etc.

Yes it was to the Nth yesterday but forecast less than 40nm from airport.

I'd be frustrated as a pax but I'd also be happy knowing that safety comes first.

A quick search you will see Tiger, SQ, Air Asia, Silk all still Bali bound.

Back to my point when is it ok to disregard safety or a volcanic ash report.

All ok till something flucks up, I wonder I'm a few days time if a few engines may devil some issues.

Yes well I'm agreeing with you now as the observed ash is now over the airport.

It beats me as well how and why everyone else is flying into Bali except the Qantas group and Virgin. Note that it's not just the Asian carriers, even KLM etc are operating into Bali.

Genuine question, don't they have some sort of volcanic ash avoidance policy? How do they decide when to stop flights?:confused:

Maybe
 

Ahhh maybe while Aussies have been concentrating on ADSB installation they have missed the boat on the new VADSUHD.

Yes that's the Volcanic Ash Dection System Ultra High Def.

Sheesh can't believe they forgot to get it installed.

Good on the rest of the world leading and installing it.

Now gotta go put a new order in for an overhauled Thrunomeister, of course that can wait as going flying in the C209XLT tomorrow.

Now where do I order a VADSUHD?

I suppose you could say that's why Australia has never lost a VH registered jet.

Elsewhere, particularly the region concerned, the dollar comes first and the hull losses happen with regular occurrence.

Is the volcano still erupting or is it just that the ash cloud is hanging around? If this goes on for weeks you could have 10 thousand people stuck up there. What happens then, does the government get involved with the military to air lift people out of there?

I am currently on holiday in Bali with my family. We arrived on the 4th Melbourne to Singapore and then down to Denpsar with KLM.
The ash cloud is having no obvious effect on the ground here and is certainly not affecting departures and arrivals from the east. I am aware that situation could deteriorate rapidly but surely a rescheduled daylight flight with a Singapore or Darwin alternate should be able to cut the mustard.
Mind you looking at the weather due to pass through Victoria on the weekend, I may be able to cope with a few more days up here. :)

DPS closed due volcanic ash
 

A1413/15 notamn
q) waaf/qfalc/iv/nbo/a/000/999/0845s11510e005
a) wadd b) 1507091446 c) 1507092230
e) ad clsd due to raung mt activity

LOP also closed, all other AC avoiding the area at high levels
 

B1067/15 NOTAMR B1065/15
Q) WAAF/QFALC/IV/NBO/A/000/999/0845S11616E005
A) WADL B) 1507091531 C) 1507092230
E) AD CLSD DUE TO RAUNG MT ACTIVITY
CREATED: 09 Jul 2015 15:31:00
SOURCE: WRRRYNYX

Well then
 

That will stop them!!! (Maybe)!

Latest NOTAM shows AD will be closed for the day.

AUSSIES Can't fly
 

Aussies are not flying to Bali because they are NOW from a nanny state where panic rules.The great Australian skilled QF/AN knock about pilots are all retired.

Like Fluke I'm now on extended enforced holiday in Denpasar. Today it's just blown over very smokey/hazy. AD is closed until 7.30 local tonight and the tourist panic is starting - Jetstar are apparently quoting no seats available until 24th or so....

I always wanted to learn to surf.....😃

Bali Bagus
 

Well I could think of worse places to be stuck!

It's a reminder to us that we live on planet earth and will be dictated to by it not the other way around. At the same time as this there's a Typhoon in Japan.

Still it will be interesting to see if any of the airlines operating in and out the last few days experience any engine issues due ash, not that we will ever hear about it if so.

As a pax I've been delayed by weather and yes it sucks but I'd rather have a cold Bintang in my hand than two engines quiting due ash... Etc!

It's the way of the airlines today, push push push around the limits. Good on J* and V for showing some integrity.

As for the post re old skool pilots I'll take that as tounge in cheek.

Hoping the mountain stops being angry very soon so all the kiddies can get back to school on time :O

Whilst nobody knows the guys full reasoning or situation on the day, there is something of a sticking point for me out of this story.

The amount of people who turn up to work on the flight deck of an aircraft worth millions upon millions of dollars, carrying paying passengers over thousands of kilometres and millions of city dwelling innocents, whilst feeling under the weather, or after a night without sleep, or in an emotionally unfit state, etc ,etc ,etc; is pretty astonishing.

Airlines have folks on standby for a reason, they have means to get extra help from others when the standbys are all used up (day off payments in some airlines, etc), they have a massive support network that can swing into action to ensure things get done.


YOU ARE NOT LETTING ANYONE DOWN BY CALLING IN SICK!!!!!

Don't be afraid to do it!

I would be even more peeved if you show up to work and pass an illness on to me, or contribute to an incident such as this, rather than have a perfectly healthy standby come out and work instead.