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ACMS 15th Jul 2015 07:26

Turbo Props suck considerable amounts of air in the front too don't they mate? So surely if a 737 can't fly then neither can a Dash 8......:D

chuboy 15th Jul 2015 08:14

You would think chartering buses for overland transport to the next closest airport would be cheaper, but I guess that wouldn't provoke as much of a tingle in your inner spotter :ok:

Capt Claret 15th Jul 2015 08:36

Yep, the Indonesians need to build bridges from each island in the archipelago to the next to facilitate road transport from one island's airport, to the next. :}

swh 15th Jul 2015 12:38


Turbo Props suck considerable amounts of air in the front too don't they mate?
As they say, props are for boats.

The road/rail link to SUB/CGK is really good, and if you have time should be on your bucket list. The scenery in Indonesia is amazing as a result of it sitting on a tectonic plate.

myshoutcaptain 16th Jul 2015 12:01

Heard today that our good friends in CGK have put a stop to all the adhoc flights to clear the backlog. Although they have been ferrying to DPS empty and operating adhoc home , it seems now CGK requires "the paperwork" to be in order. If true , the media should get onto it. Hard to operate extra services when you aren't allowed .... :ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh:

TWT 16th Jul 2015 12:16

Is it only adhoc flights between DPS and Australia that require this extra paperwork ?

Australia is not exactly flavour of the month in Indonesia.Relations have been prickly for quite some time.

myshoutcaptain 16th Jul 2015 12:40

TWT -as far as I know, it is not. I should have been more specific. After the Air Asia accident there has been some significant changes in the filing of notifications. Many delays waiting on the tarmac for your flight plan from CGK,you have no slot and you must depart before time XX (How can you expect to depart on time when you are held as the airport is closed for "15minutes" but really 30 +.

One chestnut I heard about occurred this week -

AUS carrier requested pushback. Aircraft on 10nm final. Aircraft lands and parks at gate , AUS carrier gets pushback. Coincidence I guess.:cool:

AUS inbound from north west , 737 from CGK inbound due west. AUS slowed , vectored and made number two to 737 when AUS was 20nm + in front of 737. :cool:

But we digress ...

meloz 22nd Jul 2015 06:07

DPS closed again.

Ken Borough 22nd Jul 2015 07:57


Heard today that our good friends in CGK have put a stop to all the adhoc flights to clear the backlog. Although they have been ferrying to DPS empty and operating adhoc home , it seems now CGK requires "the paperwork" to be in order. If true , the media should get onto it. Hard to operate extra services when you aren't allowed
It's not onerous to secure the necessary approvals. Indonesia, like most of Asia, require certain filings to be made. Approval is usually immediately issued, especially for known entities.


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