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ozziekiwi 6th Jun 2015 01:08

Girls can do anything !!!!!
 
Yep - girls CAN do anything - sometimes better than us guys !!!!

VIDEO: First Australian female pilot on the verge of worldwide milestone - 9news.com.au

:D

CaptCloudbuster 6th Jun 2015 01:22

Why the rolleyes??
 
What an inspiration to all Pilots both male and female!

Well done to her on an amazing career forged through her own determined will.

In Qantas we have a similar character in Capt Cheryl Quinn. Her story describing the hurdles overcome to be QFs first female Pilot is awe inspiring. Small in stature but huge in character I feel privileged to have had the opportunity to operate under her Command.

You go Girls!:ok:

morno 6th Jun 2015 01:35


:rolleyes:
Bit of tall poppy syndrome ozziekiwi?

ozziekiwi 6th Jun 2015 01:49

apologies to all you sensitive guys - just hit the wrong emoticon !!

All Good and yes go girls !! :ok:

cattletruck 6th Jun 2015 11:20

I think I've flown with her back in the 80's.

An Ansett 727 with an all girl crew lined up with a bit of a crosswind. With throttles up and speed increasing we went for a little excursion to the edge of the runway and back, a bit of a whoopsie moment, but all was good and it was an enjoyable flight to Brisbane.

C441 6th Jun 2015 11:23


In Qantas we have a similar character in Capt Cheryl Quinn
That would be Sharelle Quinn.....otherwise spot-on!

cocobananas 6th Jun 2015 11:30

I see Morno is quite the insecure little man......no time for d./#@ks like you!!!

morno 6th Jun 2015 11:34

Errr, I'm a little confused by your comment coco.

bcgallacher 6th Jun 2015 12:20

They can't pee out a railway carriage window.

cocobananas 6th Jun 2015 12:35

Nasty streak got the better of me........I'm sorry morno

Part 121 6th Jun 2015 13:08

Congrats Deb,

Aviation is much richer as a result of your involvement.

Look forward to hearing you make #1.

:ok::D

john_tullamarine 6th Jun 2015 13:19

I think I've flown with her back in the 80's.
An Ansett 727 with an all girl crew lined up ..

I don't think so. Deb was the senior AN lady at that stage but, if I recall correctly, she was either doing her command or had recently checked out on the 737 at the time we prefer not to mention ... she headed off O/S subsequently.

Thoroughly pleasant person ...

Dora-9 6th Jun 2015 20:19

jt is correct on both counts. She was command training when 1989 occurred, and she was always a very pleasant person to fly with.

Good to see her still going strong...

Offchocks 7th Jun 2015 00:14

It was the age when Australia was quite insular in employment practices with them not employing females as pilots, plus of course the age requirements they had for all recruits. (myself included)
Although I do not know Deborah, congratulations on being able to turn the tide for women and of course having a long career. I love the "cranky old man" comment with regards Sir Reginald. Also not a bad plug for Tiger either!

emeritus 7th Jun 2015 01:11

"Ansett 727 with an all girl crew"

I agree with jt. Never happened. AN never had any women Capts or F/E's (prior to 89 )

According to my logbook I flew with Deb (B727 ) in July of 89.

As I recollect she was a good operator and am not surprised her career panned out the way it has.:ok:

Emeritus

Kubin rock climber 7th Jun 2015 01:14

On a complimentary note,

Beth Garrett

https://m.facebook.com/royalflyingdo...2019426292252/

Global Aviator 7th Jun 2015 03:06

Cannot
 
They can't fly for SIA.......

Skystar320 7th Jun 2015 04:57

And guys can do anything!!!

Mods - whats the point of this thread... suggest deletion

Pinky the pilot 7th Jun 2015 09:08

Aww, c`mon Skystar320, Lighten up a bit. :D

The occasional bit of levity on this particular forum is welcome IMHO.

Ultergra 7th Jun 2015 09:53

GUYS CAN DO ANYTHING
 
Wow. A female pilot.

If your after an award, go elsewhere.

If she's so awesome, who's the longest serving male pilot in Australia.



No one will care.

Sex sells.

junior.VH-LFA 7th Jun 2015 12:04


If she's so awesome, who's the longest serving male pilot in Australia.


No one will care.
Maybe that's because as a general rule male pilots haven't had to fight in built prejudice and handed down values from previous generations that were a barrier against perusing an aviation career...

A feel good media story about aviation, there is always someone who has to have a sook, yet I bet you'll be the first person to complain when there is a negative story also.

Good on her, no doubt her actions as well as those of her peers have paved the way for many females in their desire to fly.

too_much 7th Jun 2015 13:48

All those hours and she chooses to fly for Tiger...

Story would have been much better if she flew in Qantas.

No disrespect to tiger pilots but it's hardly the career dream...

Popgun 7th Jun 2015 15:05


No disrespect to tiger pilots but it's hardly the career dream...
Perhaps not. But it is a job. Not too many 'dream' careers left in this industry.

Especially if you want a job in Australia.

As for a job with QF instead of TT...well even Amelia Earhart or Chuck Yeager would have failed to get a guernsey when there's been no hiring!!! :ugh::ugh:

PG

flyingins 7th Jun 2015 16:24

Too Much,
She didn't fly for Qantas because she instead rose to very senior ranks in the safety department of KLM and was on the A330 there. You know KLM, right? The oldest continuously operating airline in the world and maybe even an airline of equal repute to Qantas.

She came back to Australia to be home and has held management positions and/ or flown for JQ, JQNZ and Tiger since.

Not every brilliant pilot flies for Qantas and many, many brilliant flying careers don't include that airline.

Many do as well, but take off your blinkers.

Well done, Deb!

too_much 7th Jun 2015 17:09

Not disputing her CV for a second and I'm sure she has held some excellent positions throughout her career.

I was simply stating the "story" would have been sweeter if it was QF

His dudeness 7th Jun 2015 17:56

I know a German lady who was a commercial pilot from 1960 to 2004. She had to open her own flightschool/banner towing and air taxi company to get employment.

Biggest airplane she flew was a twotter, providing an internal german airline service, she in fact was the DO and founded that airline for an investor.

Said airline went on to be "Deutsche BA" and is now part of Air Berlin.

She still has the letter from Lufthansa, telling her that female pilots aren`t accepted...

gerago 7th Jun 2015 19:18


cattletruck

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I think I've flown with her back in the 80's.

An Ansett 727 with an all girl crew lined up with a bit of a crosswind. With throttles up and speed increasing we went for a little excursion to the edge of the runway and back, a bit of a whoopsie moment, but all was good and it was an enjoyable flight to Brisbane.
Now, now! Your perspective got a lot different...you were no longer in a cockpit, you were in a c**tpit! Things would have all seemed surreal!;)

Shytehawk 7th Jun 2015 21:40

Gerago

Well done, you have really lowered the tone.

megle2 7th Jun 2015 23:01

Too Much, why would you consider Qantas to be a dream job
Up to that event we can't refer to, agreed it was
Since then I wouldn't of thought so
These days you'd be fortunate to have a airline jet job with plenty dreaming of just having a chance at any of the carriers
Cream crew at Q, they have just as many duds percentage wise as any other company

In my time this lady will be amounst the leaders of my list of high Aus aviation achievers

morno 8th Jun 2015 00:49

I fail to see why it would be 'sweeter' if she was at QF :confused:.

Deb is quite a good pilot, having flown with her a bit, so I think it's completely irrelevant where she works.

morno

Lookleft 8th Jun 2015 01:51

What would have been "sweeter" was if she was made the first female Chief Pilot of a major domestic airline. I wonder whether her battles (and not just females) will be around discrimination based on age? I'm not talking about flying the line but higher levels of management within an airline.

Ozdork 8th Jun 2015 02:42

FYI, Deb didnt have the seniority for a command at KLM, by the time she left. She certainly did have a command at KLM Cityhopper, and then bid across to F/O on the mighty MD-11, followed by the A-330. If she had stayed she would currently rate a B737 command.

The_Cutest_of_Borg 8th Jun 2015 14:42

Girls CAN do anything.
 
Eileen puts most of us in the shade.

Eileen Collins - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Capt Fathom 9th Jun 2015 03:45

The coveted Space Shuttle endorsement! :E

International Trader 9th Jun 2015 08:20

So does that mean that , Deb Wardley has the title of being the oldest woman pilot to get an airline command in Australia ?

B772 9th Jun 2015 13:57

No one can say Deborah has had an easy ride. After resigning in 1989 she reapplied to join Ansett and was unsuccessful due to public comments she made during the dispute.

From memory it was 3.5 years before she was able to secure another airline position. This time with KLM Cityhopper in Amsterdam. During her hiatus from airline flying Deborah had a son (Thomas) who would now be approx. 23 years of age.

Alsacienne 9th Jun 2015 16:56

Why do I get the feeling that the majority of posters have a 'sour grapes' attitude. Disappointing.:ugh:

Trevor the lover 10th Jun 2015 19:47

Girl pilots??? "Aaaaww - that's not fair."




(esoterically posted for the 36 squadron boys)

FlexibleResponse 13th Jun 2015 14:48

My congratulations to Captain Deborah Lawrie for confronting a such a formidable challenge as a young lady which has now resulted in a mindset change for the previously male dominated profession of flight deck crew.

You have been and will continue to be an inspiration for the many young lady aviators that will follow in your footsteps.

mikedreamer787 13th Jun 2015 22:48


My congratulations to Captain Deborah Lawrie for confronting a such a formidable challenge as a young lady
There were wimmin flogging RPT Herons with Southern Airlines out of Essendon in the early 1950s - before Deb Lawrie was born.


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