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Username here 14th Apr 2015 11:48

QLINK parking Q300s at Tamworth?
 
Just saw a photo from a mate in Tamworth on the "facepalm" with about five dash 8-300s parked on the grass/aprons at Tamworth...

What's the story? Parking aircraft can't be a good sign?

Fonz121 14th Apr 2015 22:46

They might have to start parking 400's soon with the amount of crew leaving/trying to leave.

rightinitial 15th Apr 2015 02:47

Leaving to go where exactly?

captwawa 15th Apr 2015 03:16

Some of the younger guys have gone to Rex, others to the Orange people and a few retirements.

TOGA Flex 15th Apr 2015 03:21

network F100

MaxFL360 15th Apr 2015 04:05

rex? why go to rex from qlink? less pay isn't it as well as worse equiptment

TOGA Flex 15th Apr 2015 04:08

Command prehaps?

Horatio Leafblower 15th Apr 2015 04:09


rex? why go to rex from qlink? less pay isn't it as well as worse equiptment
Command within a lifetime?

BNEA320 15th Apr 2015 09:04

know a few ports that could use q300s & they would also underwrite all flights.
 
In both nsw & Victoria

Backtoscratch 15th Apr 2015 10:44

Rumour is that 3 of them are going to be sold. But it's an old rumour. Hopefully they'll be the more hateful SB registered a/c

Going Nowhere 15th Apr 2015 21:40

SBB,SBJ,SBT,TQY,TQY all stored in TMW.

It would've been a handy idea to use one as a spare in ADL seeing as they've gone U/S quite a few days recently and delayed a few pax to/from WYA.

It's not like it's a new market that they're trying to get traction in or anything. Oh wait... :ugh:

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Also a few on the hold file for Cobham and a few thinking of taking LWOP to leaving flying altogether for a year or two.
Massively short of Q400 FO's in BNE and CNS recently but that'll hopefully sort itself out when the Q300 pilots who are moving across go through the sim. Still an excess of pilots in the grand scheme of things but at the current rate they are leaving they may to looking in 2016.

Backtoscratch 15th Apr 2015 23:18

From the flight trackers it looks like SBT, TQM, TQY and TQZ are the ones there....but all x 4 due back to SYD today at 11:am.....hmmmmm....something interesting going on.....

Going Nowhere 16th Apr 2015 03:36

TQM is back to SYD ex maintenance.

All others are stored as per my previous post.

TOGA Flex 18th Apr 2015 14:27

Maybe start hiring again in 2017 (hopefully) ??

funnelweb 18th Apr 2015 17:22

Good place to park em, better than Avalon with it's salt air and sewerage works, they'll move on, so will the 400s; all good honest aircraft that have earnt their keep.

BNEA320 19th Apr 2015 03:13

Can any of these Q300's be utilised in next few months or do they all require major checks ?


Ask, as we have some work for such aircraft for about 8-12 hours per week ex SYD.




Who precisely would you ask ?




If anyone knows can they PM us.

Tidbinbilla 19th Apr 2015 03:20

Rather than messing around on here, why don't you google the company name and telephone them directly? :ugh:

BNEA320 19th Apr 2015 03:39

surely much MUCH quicker here than trying to phone & getting stuck at gatekeepers.

Tidbinbilla 19th Apr 2015 04:06

Surely, if you're seriously interested in leasing one or more of those aircraft, and assuming they are stored due excess capacity - the 'gatekeeper' will put you through to the responsible person.

Here - I'll make it simple for you: 02 9691-2333

Now how about we get back on topic?

Going Nowhere 19th Apr 2015 08:58

Plenty of Q300 crew in BNE. In fact enough on reserve to crew just about all of them.

It's what they were doing up until March...

Di_Vosh 19th May 2015 08:00


Another Union achievement. Parked aircraft and retirements should be replaced by new aircraft, unless incompetent Union Officials drive them elsewhere. Congrats Champions!
Would have to be one of the stupidest statements I've heard lately!

DIVOSH!

Going Nowhere 19th May 2015 09:50

Yeah I can't see how the Union reps had anyhting to do parking the Q300's.

They weren't even told about it until just before the news broke!

ACMS 19th May 2015 11:23

Jennytal----so, all those overpaid Dash drivers working for a profitable QLink are to blame are they???????

Idiot

dijical 18th Jun 2015 00:54

Off to Auckland?
 
Jetstar set to announce NZ domestic expansion

Although it's weird to imagine JQ flying turboprops :confused:

206greaser 19th Jun 2015 13:53

Aren't Qlink recruiting at the moment? Their website seems to suggest it is.

Cheers,
Greaser

Edit: well it did as of a few days ago. I think it was only for Sunstate though. Truly it did but now I can't find it.

Going Nowhere 19th Jun 2015 20:39

QLink are hiring for both Eastern and Sunstate.

It's just a limitation of the software used to generate the advertisement that only one group entity can be listed.

This has come from a member of the pilot council and management.

EDIT: It looks like the ad has gone but people have already been asked to conduct psych testing for an unknown interview date.

yr right 19th Jun 2015 22:17

Latest rumour I'd they are going to NZ for jet star.

206greaser 20th Jun 2015 02:32

Thanks Going Nowhere! I thought I was going crazy but there definitely was an advert! I'm surprised it wasn't more widely acknowledged. It's kind of a big deal when Qlink start recruiting again.

Cheers,
Greaser.

Nulli Secundus 20th Jun 2015 03:36

EDIT: It looks like the ad has gone but people have already been asked to conduct psych testing for an unknown interview date.

These psych tests are getting very tricky

noclue 21st Jun 2015 08:58

The add has gone because it's no longer a Qlink position, you need to look at Jetstar.

Jetstar - NEW ZEALAND OPPORTUNITIES

HappyBandit 21st Jun 2015 09:34


Originally Posted by noclue (Post 9019196)
The add has gone because it's no longer a Qlink position, you need to look at Jetstar.

Jetstar - NEW ZEALAND OPPORTUNITIES

So quiet a few have asked me at wirk does that mean there may be opportunities to move to the a320 in future?

I have my opinions but interested to hear others thoughts on this.

Going Nowhere 21st Jun 2015 09:37

Noclue,

QLink still need drivers for the Aus operation.

noclue 21st Jun 2015 10:39


Originally Posted by Going Nowhere (Post 9019237)
Noclue,

QLink still need drivers for the Aus operation.


True, but with the advertisement pulled, I think the clear priority is now propstar.

Shed Dog Tosser 21st Jun 2015 11:11


True, but with the advertisement pulled, I think the clear priority is now propstar.
That would not be the case if certain EAA / SSA individuals, you know who you are, stopped doing day off call ins, cancelling annual leave and accepting extensions.

4 Captains and 3.833 FO's per airframe, who are they kidding ?

To me, this sounds poorly thought out, poorly driven and a mess waiting to happen, I wonder how many marriages this will cost when it gets folded up in twelve months time ?

swh 21st Jun 2015 11:24


Just saw a photo from a mate in Tamworth on the "facepalm" with about five dash 8-300s parked on the grass/aprons at Tamworth...
Maybe there is a competition between Cairns and Tamworth to see who can park more Dash 8s. Saw 3 Dash 8s parked at Cairns as well, different operator.

Slippery_Pete 21st Jun 2015 23:59

Despite assertions at the time from "management" that Jetstar wasn't going to take any Qantas routes and flying, that's exactly what they did - and continue to do.

The plan all along was to slowly transfer work onto Cheapstar to get costs down, because of those pesky (but world's best) flight crew and engineers were so expensive.

I wonder if this is the start of the same thing for their prop operations.

In five years time, will all the Aussie QLink Dash 8's will be flying around in Cheapstar paint schemes, fixing themselves, with pilots on half the money - and lining up to buy their own endorsement (read as "buy their way into a job")?

If they were prepared to destroy QF mainline with Jetstar, there's no reason they won't look to do the same with the Dash8 operations.

If I were a Dash8 QLink driver, I'd be starting to feel pretty nervous.

HappyBandit 22nd Jun 2015 02:12


Originally Posted by Slippery_Pete (Post 9019941)
Despite assertions at the time from "management" that Jetstar wasn't going to take any Qantas routes and flying, that's exactly what they did - and continue to do.

The plan all along was to slowly transfer work onto Cheapstar to get costs down, because of those pesky (but world's best) flight crew and engineers were so expensive.

I wonder if this is the start of the same thing for their prop operations.

In five years time, will all the Aussie QLink Dash 8's will be flying around in Cheapstar paint schemes, fixing themselves, with pilots on half the money - and lining up to buy their own endorsement (read as "buy their way into a job")?

If they were prepared to destroy QF mainline with Jetstar, there's no reason they won't look to do the same with the Dash8 operations.

If I were a Dash8 QLink driver, I'd be starting to feel pretty nervous.

I'm not nervous!!?? I really do not believe this is the start of something here...yes whilst mainly Jstar management, the low cost model would not work here (my opinion only). The way I see it, the main reason they are doing this in NZ is firstly unable to competitively sell the Q300s with reasonably high airframe hrs and so the better alternative in having them sit around is to utilise them. Yes it will initially cost in setting up in NZ however the costs will likely be absorbed by competing on monopoly routes with Air NZ (Remember who is a major shareholder for Virgin). Jetstar is the best option because they are already established in the market in NZ and doesn't make sense in setting up Qantas brand there.

The reason it wouldn't work here is Qantas already established a strong regional market in Oz and despite the criticisms still considered a premium airline by its customers. So why change that brand marketing/modelling to Jetstar, never mind the additional costs in rebranding all to Jetstar.

Slippery_Pete 22nd Jun 2015 02:48


So why change that brand marketing/modelling to Jetstar
Exact same reason as they did it to mainline. If they were prepared to cannibalise mainlines branding and reputation as a premium product, what makes you think they wouldn't do it to the prop operations?

First of all it will 6-12 months of heavy loss making in NZ.

Then they'll move a few across to Australia "but they won't compete with existing routes, just leisure destinations".

Then they'll say how QLink are losing too much money.

Then JetstarLink will come along as the saviour and, lo and behold, start operating on QLink routes.

Eventually, Jetstar will be doing the majority of the prop flying and cadets will be lining up to pay money for a job, and people will be buying dash8 endorsements to jump the queue.

Well that's how I imagine it might go. Time will tell.

Threewheeler 22nd Jun 2015 12:52

What exactly attracts people to the airline game??? I think its that the future is so promising, i mean lower wages, longer hours, major responsibility etc. Knowing that your job is on the line just because you had a bad day, we must be good to handle this stuff! Just like James Bond:rolleyes:

TW

DeltaT 23rd Jun 2015 09:10

NZ Based opportunities application form gives preferred airport choices of Brisbane or Coolangatta. :confused:


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