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garpal gumnut 14th Jan 2014 21:43

Dreamliner rattled landing at Cairns
 
Rumour that a Jetstar 787 Dreamliner in Cairns has endured major cracks In windows and wings after a heavy landing. More to come.....

via twitter @StevePurvinas

DaveReidUK 14th Jan 2014 22:15

Doesn't appear to have made any of the mainstream media.

nitpicker330 14th Jan 2014 23:01

I know this is a new fangled composite airframe but a heavy landing cracking windows and wings????????? If it was that heavy it wouldn't have left the runway without a truck....:D

A A Gruntpuddock 14th Jan 2014 23:08

Seems to be fit to fly


nitpicker330 14th Jan 2014 23:13

Nice video taken on the 14th NOV 2013 and not relevant to the current subject about the 787 parked in Cairns during JAN 2014.:ugh:

ampclamp 14th Jan 2014 23:20

Rumour has it that it have a heavy landing but is now Ok. Insufficient staff or similar to start ops over the new year.

Wally Mk2 14th Jan 2014 23:31

Easy fix those cracks, stop drill them, & ya good to go:ok:


Wmk2

ALAEA Fed Sec 14th Jan 2014 23:35

Anyone know the rego of the aircraft that was in Cns? Wondering when it flew in and how long before it flew again.


VKA is the one that has been flying to DPS
VKB has its first commercial flt tomorrow
VKD was delivered 10 Jan, not sure where it is.

Ken Borough 14th Jan 2014 23:42

See here, and do yer own 'fishing'!! :mad::ugh::ugh::ugh:

http://www.thejetstarsource.com

waren9 14th Jan 2014 23:50

pieces of the puzzle

from mgmt on the 10th


Dreamliner number three on its way

This weekend we welcome our third Boeing 787 Dreamliner into Australia. Our first 787 has been operating from Melbourne to Bali over the festive season, allowing thousands of Jetstar customers to experience this game-changing new aircraft.

Next week we will commence 787 services from Sydney to Bali with our second 787, which has been undergoing its AOC validation activities since arriving in Australia. Our third 787 will commence Phuket services at the start of February.
afaik it was the 2nd one that was up in cns. vkb. up there on ny eve, back to syd on the 13th.

VH-VKB ? 31-Dec-2013 ? YMML / MEL - YBCS / CNS ? FlightAware

vkd appears to be in cns
History ? VH-VKD ? FlightAware

hotnhigh 15th Jan 2014 00:03

Lucky they have that hangar in Melbourne for all that non core maintenance work.
Heavy landings perhaps.
RAT infestations.
AS Bill says, "its all happening out there."

Goat Whisperer 15th Jan 2014 00:10

Just fishing through the aforementioned http://thejetstarsource.com indicates that the same 787 has operated MEL-DPS everyday since 18 Dec. Not bad intro to service for a new and very different type.

onetrack 15th Jan 2014 06:44

Who does Steve Purvinas work for? Air Asia?? :suspect: Besides, a few dabs of epoxy works wonders on this new-fangled composite stuff, don'cha know?? :suspect:

Would this be the same bloke, who was reportedly urging people to avoid making Christmas holiday bookings on Qantas?? :suspect:

AnQrKa 15th Jan 2014 19:22

SP and his world view are part of the problem. Union thugery old style is alive and well and will be the end of QF in its present form.

Viva la old days huh!!!!!

dragon man 15th Jan 2014 19:26

Rather than personal attacks on Steve wouldn't it be better to try and find out if the rumour about a hard landing on the 787 is fact or fiction.

AnQrKa 15th Jan 2014 19:30

"Rather than personal attacks on Steve wouldn't it be better to try and find out if the rumour about a hard landing on the 787 is fact or fiction."

and

"via twitter @StevePurvinas"

Dont you mean wouldn't it be better if Steve found out the facts before tweeting it?

Australopithecus 15th Jan 2014 19:38

Someone had better tell Southwest Air that they are doing it wrong.

You'd think that a guy who had been at Ansett, Qatar and Korean would have learned by now not to be a management stooge.

Solomons Son 15th Jan 2014 21:24

Another empty Jetstar flight! Amazing Business!:D

Capn Bloggs 15th Jan 2014 22:16

Don't those new-fangled plastic thingees land themselves? :uhoh:

Boney 21st Jan 2014 06:03

. . . is still sitting there!

onetrack 21st Jan 2014 06:21

Maybe some of the more negative speculators could just do everyone a favour, and read the local rag?? :rolleyes:

Jetstar Dreamliner parked at Cairns Airport for several weeks as it undergoes certification | Business News | Business and Finance News | | Cairns Post

Boney 21st Jan 2014 09:17

You are probably 100% correct but doesn't Murdoch own The Cairns Post?

I would not believe a word said in any of his papers unless verified by another source.

Did they get this info from "phone tapping"?

ALAEA Fed Sec 21st Jan 2014 10:06

Qantas has told me that there was no 787 heavy landing in Cairns. There is a slight chance it may be true.

underfire 21st Jan 2014 10:17

I dont know the process, but why Cairns for certification/validation of a delivered ac?
Kinda out of the way up there.

Logohu 21st Jan 2014 10:45

Kinda out of the way up there.

Exactly.....out of sight out of mind.

The last thing AJ and his cohorts will want is too many of those pesky journos from down south taking an interest in yet another parked jet :=

spelling_nazi 21st Jan 2014 21:03

It's parked in cairns because jetstar didn't have their shiz in a pile and don't have the staff/paperwork organised to certify it.

717tech 21st Jan 2014 22:05

I just can't see why a new (not first of type) has to spend so long being "certified". Same story with VKB... I thought that the paperwork would've been completed prior to the aircraft arriving here. Unless I'm missing something, other new aircraft don't seem to be parked long before thrown out onto the line?

training wheels 21st Jan 2014 22:21

VKB was in Bali yesterday. This photo was taken at about 5pm local. Strange to see a widebody Jetstar aircraft at this time in Bali (unless there's been a change in their schedule).


http://imgur.com/T9YY3m8.jpg

ponyboy13 21st Jan 2014 22:30

Probably just delayed.

blueloo 21st Jan 2014 23:11

I heard heavy landing too from engineer up there. (Non JQ ENG)

Can it be that hard to find out? Wouldn't it be reportable to ATSB? Surely someone knows an engineer with jetstar who knows an engineer who knows an engineer who knows the Townsville refueller?

Suck&Blow 21st Jan 2014 23:59

Like your work, blueloo!

OneDotLow 22nd Jan 2014 00:33

The rumour of a heavy landing is false. The certification process is taking a long time, but they need to check all the serial numbers etc and CASA take there time over these sorts of things.

There is talk however, of crew shortages, which is plausible.

Does anyone know how to fix a transponder in Bali though?? ;)

P.s. looks like someone worked it out, and it came back as JQ1038 last night.

OneDotLow 22nd Jan 2014 00:40

Blueloo said :


Can it be that hard to find out? Wouldn't it be reportable to ATSB?
Oddly enough, JQ pilots do not report to the ATSB or fill in ASIRs. It is all done internally via an "OSCAR" which the company then reviews and decides whether it is worth notifying the authorities over.

The standards for reporting are pretty flexible... I remember an A320 south of Cairns that had an IRS hiccup (similar to QF's A330 event according to the crew) and ended up descending around 1'000' uncommanded, about 3 years ago. Did the report ever see the light of day? Nope.

FYSTI 22nd Jan 2014 00:50


Originally Posted by OneDotLow
It is all done internally via an "OSCAR" which the company then reviews and decides whether it is worth notifying the authorities over.

“Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything.”
Joseph Stalin

ALAEA Fed Sec 22nd Jan 2014 01:46

95% of Qantas reports are scrapped before they get to CASA.


I've spoken about the 747 ex HAECO which had 4 engines bolted on incorrectly. Never reported via the mandatory SDR program even tough we have the form 500s which were submitted by the LAMEs.


When we raised it with CASA they covered for them by saying it was ok because Qantas called them about it.

George Glass 22nd Jan 2014 06:23

ASIR's are classified reportable or not reportable as defined Flight Admin. Manual. They are not"scrapped".:=

Flowerpot Man 22nd Jan 2014 11:00

OneDotLow is the only person in this thread who knows what's going on.

I don't know who started the heavy landing rumour but they must be laughing at how well it propagated, considering there is not a shred of truth to it.

waren9 22nd Jan 2014 12:39

it was a throwaway 1 liner post (#300) from the jetstar 787 thread

CAR42ZE 22nd Jan 2014 13:02

Who looks after the JQ 787s now? Is it the skeleton crew left at JHAS, or is it Korr? Either way - seems somewhat strange to have the aircraft in Cairns and the hangars (and most of the engineers?) in Melbourne...

Capt Claret 22nd Jan 2014 19:22

Mebee it's got a melted battery box & they're waiting on spares? :E


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