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Old 17th Nov 2013, 04:44
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Problems at Brindabella?

Brindabella Airlines grounds planes for 'maintenance review' | News.com.au

Looks like quite a few of their planes have been out of service well before Friday
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Old 17th Nov 2013, 05:09
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Qantaslink has stepped in with 200's

on a couple of routes they codeshare, just to keep the punters happy.
I've heard the companies issues aren't all maintenance related either.
Fingers crossed they get it sorted quickly.
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Old 17th Nov 2013, 06:02
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4 planes.

Sounds like the Jetstream 4100 fleet.

I'd reccon the Metro III and JS31 fleet are still running.
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VH-OTD ? FlightAware - Hasn't flown since 5/11
VH-OTE ? FlightAware - Hasn't flown since 7/11
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Old 17th Nov 2013, 19:09
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And one of their Metros is sitting in Domestic 5 in Sydney with no tail feathers courtesy of a catering truck, next to one of the grounded JS32s (which has just had an engine change). I hear Fort Fumble have chucked a few extra conditions onto the 32's engine change before they will be happy....

Hope you good Brindy folk currently sidelined can get back into the air soon.
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Old 17th Nov 2013, 21:16
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Who will do the TW run 1st ???

Gee Jeff, look what happens when you leave !!!
I think Gus had to act after so many engineering stuffups.
I think the only a/c flying is the 1s they are soon to scrap ???
Who will be the 1st to replace Brindys #1 route: the BN-TW run ?
Will it be Q or V ?
With the busiest month coming up in JAN ( due to the TW music fest ), I'm sure all the paperwork will be on CASAs table this morning !!!
The interesting thing will be crewing with Q & V: both of their recruiting systems have failed successfully & so much $/efforts has been cast to the breeze.
I'm thinking Q will be trying very hard for this high yielding run as their about to loose 20 odd return flts/week to Moranbah from BN next yr.
The other interesting thing is will CASA approve Q to the run after so many Q400 tailstrikes ???
Hmmm...
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Old 17th Nov 2013, 21:42
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Was Brisbane Tamworth a code share flight with Q??
If so wouldn't it make sense then that the Q keep that service running?..
It's a port they already operate into (from Syd).

Moranbah might be slowing, (had too many flights in the first place IMHO) Miles is about to start up though. Gas 'mines' seem to be growing, where as the growth we were seeing in coal has plateaued.

Too many?? I doubt your in a position to make that judgement, let alone publicly.
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Old 17th Nov 2013, 22:42
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The other interesting thing is will CASA approve Q to the run after so many Q400 tailstrikes ???
What's that got to do with TMW? For the record, QLink have had 1 tailstrike in the Q400 and up until that point were just about the only Q400 operator in the world not to have had one, which given the size of the fleet and the amount of sectors they fly isn't too bad.

Axe to grind? Sour grapes? Got the thanks but no thanks email?
Hmmm...
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Correction

For the record, QLink have had 1 tailstrike in the Q400 and up until that point were just about the only Q400 operator in the world not to have had one, which given the size of the fleet and the amount of sectors they fly isn't too bad.

Sorry, that's just wrong !

Why the new SOP to push forward on the yokes by the NFP ???
The Dept are all over this issue with Q, not to mention the amount of $ spent on extra engineering inspections.
No axe to grind here...
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Pushing forward on the yoke? Must've missed that FOAB...
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Old 18th Nov 2013, 07:57
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"The ATSB annotated while there have been many tail strikes of DH8Ds around the planet partly with substantial damage, this was the first encounter in Australia."

I guess all of the other tail strikes DofC is talking about must have been in PNG???
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Old 18th Nov 2013, 08:22
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Question

Q400 tail strikes in PNG???? Interesting statement, can you substantiate with operators involved and locations?

The Q400 operator in PNG has a good safety track record, second to none actually especially given the environment they operate in..................
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Old 18th Nov 2013, 10:40
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Waghi Warrior,

I think NowThatsFunny was having a dig at DutyofCare's statement on tail strikes by saying that because there has only been one in Australia by Qlink that the rest that have supposedly have happened must have ooccurred in PNG on their Cairns - Port Moresby run, not to insinuate that a PNG Q400 operator has been having tail strikes.
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Correct CT. Sorry for the confusion WW.

Perhaps DofC can elaborate on his Sorry, that's just wrong !
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Old 19th Nov 2013, 21:30
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Oh come now Cactus Jack.

Brindabella's media release says they grounded the aircraft themselves and advised CASA that they had done so.
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Old 20th Nov 2013, 10:30
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A few Rumours:

The previous owner of Brindy is stil owed a significant sum, and there is a significant amount of maintenance outstanding on his Metros;

There are two J32s pushed against the fence for a lack of Maintenance, or money to complete it;

They are paying cash for fuel at Narrabri;

There is no evidence of a Hot Section Inspection being completed on one of the J32s- 1500 hours overdue - CASA grounding 1.

There are several ADs significantly overflown on the J41s - Groundings 2 and 3.

None of the Ground Handlers have been paid.

It is a pity that the ex-Aeropelican commercial management have now done to Brindy's what they first did to Aeropelican, and were aparrently doing to each other all along
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Old 20th Nov 2013, 10:55
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All those are true and correct!
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Old 30th Nov 2013, 19:38
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Max Hazelton's take on Brindy

Brindabella will fly away from Orange forever: Hazelton | Central Western Daily

It seems that Orange, much like NBR & MDG & MOR, have hsd enough of the product offered. Pelican had the same person running "yield management" as they had running customer service. This is the result.

Have we heard the pitter patter of little Ducs yet?
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This all sounds pretty serious to me
Are Casa being gentle with Brinda rather than apply the Barrier treatment
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Old 1st Dec 2013, 22:06
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This all sounds pretty serious to me
Are Casa being gentle with Brinda rather than apply the Barrier treatment
They are going for the same result, just in a different manner. Though some past and present members of (now) Brindy upper management would seem to have either played into CASA's hands, and other have done their level best to financially break the company... After the IV "long haul" speech of 2012 it was odd to see him parachute out so quickly. The signs were there and (take it from someone who has owned and run a business previously), the massive amount of mid to upper level dis-organisation and deliberate vagueness of information (and occasional mis-information) that was given to employees is, and will never be, any way to treat an employee group that relies upon a strong, cohesive management structure to feed their families long term.

I cannot imagine Jeff and Lara would be all that happy seeing what remains of their blood, sweat and tears for so long ending this way. I visited the gate at Sydney last night for a quick catch-up with the guys there..... One solitary flight in the system for today.... That isn't going to get too many staff (or even Jeff) paid...

I feel for those staff involved and hope the current situation ends well for them.

Horatio, I would imagine it would soon be dining upon satay frog legs if not already...

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