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What The 22nd Jul 2013 09:42

Have done a number of manual 744 and 767 loadsheets over the years due to ferry flights/diversions. It takes a little bit of thought but is certainly not rocket science.

Capot 22nd Jul 2013 10:09


All pilots can do manual load sheets, however they need the required information ie number of pax, freight etc. if the system goes down this information may not be available
Am I the only oldish ex-handler who found this hilarious?

(PS - not the bit about pilots doing loadsheets, of course they can, or at least they have been shown how to do it; it was the bit about "the information not being available" that made me laugh.)

john_tullamarine 22nd Jul 2013 12:21

Why do I fear that we old pharts are rapidly being consigned to the scrap heap of archaic practices from the pre-battery and microprocessor world ?

Good God ! ... before you know it there'll be a move afoot to get rid of aircraft ship's radio operators .... whatever is the world coming to ?

Capn Bloggs 22nd Jul 2013 13:39


Originally Posted by JT
get rid of aircraft ship's radio operators

That would obviate the need for standard calls! Bit of peace and quiet for a change... :}

dirty deeds 22nd Jul 2013 14:26

The load sheet is not the problem for the flight crew, it's the right information from the ground staff to correctly fill in the load sheet that is the problem.

Funny when I read these threads, sounds like the first post of this thread is a journalist fishing for information and a certain few fall for the same tactic.

S$%T happens, Reservation systems fall over, their computers, it's going happen from time to time.

Just goes to show how reliant people are for air travel.

Maybe time to increase airfares by a few dollars, they seem to be able to pay for parking?

Eastwest Loco 22nd Jul 2013 23:11

nitpicker

The F27 was apparently a harder aeroplane to trim than larger jet equipment but as it was what we cut our teeth on it was 2nd nature.

In the endorsement courses I did the jetport boys and girls had massive froblems trimming the prop equipment with the F27 QC freighter and the Twotter driving them to distraction.

By comparison the DC9, 727-76 & 276 as well as the A300 were quite straightforward.

John Tulla - I did say UNDER a minute:E

Best all

EWL

Old 'Un 23rd Jul 2013 08:05

John Tulla

Don't look now, but I think "they" have removed the Morse keys already... :uhoh:

Le Vieux

john_tullamarine 23rd Jul 2013 12:27

removed the Morse keys already

.. another hard won qualification shot to pieces and worth naught ...

Weapons Grade 30th Jul 2013 14:35

No Batteries Required
 
Am I also getting to that stage of my career? What ever happened to:
a. Flying boats
b. Fountain pens, and
c. The Mass in Latin?

I still pull a slide rule out of the nav bag for fuel (and other) calculations.
Good thing is that it requires no batteries, chargers, can be taken through checkpoints without upsetting those who are easily upset, and (the best part) the XOs invariably ask "what is that thing you are playing with?"
Hopefully they are enquiring about the slide rule.

From the JT performance/navigation classes:
TI/60 = D/GS = FBO/FF (just plug them into the C and D scales)

I must be getting to old for this stuff.


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