Sources indicate 2014 jet introduction. Quite a few EBA's concenrned will be signed off by then. Massive capital injection into QLink at the expense of the legacy pay scales that mainline has. Sources also indicate (strongly) that the GOL will never ever see the light of day so that the legacy pay cant be used in Qlink on the new Jet equipment. Expect recruiting to seriously ramp up over the next 12 months to support the change.

You heard it here first.

I'm willing to bet a 100k that in 5 years that qlink will be operating 717s and dash 8s with "jet" like speed. End of story. You guys ain't flying jets unless u join Jetstar, Virgin, Alliance or perhaps Cobham. Wouldn't that be ironic...:E

Do you even know how the GOL works??????:cool:

And do you think that if Qlink do get jets, the company wont start calling your current Qlink pay 'legacy', so they can try and get a better deal?

But what new routes could these new jets be used on. IF it happens I can only see it being a fleet replacement for 717's f100's, q400's. I wouldn't be calling it an expansion where they will be employing heaps of people to crew them.

Forgetting Something?
 

Network Aviation... Qlinks Jetstar. Its where the Qlink Jet growth will go...

Rockape,

That's exactly wot I was alluding to in Post 4 on page 1. Maybe I should have spelt it out for the mentally challenged :ugh:

I have heard that QF is going to be taking over the 717 ops from Cobham. Another 5 717's on the way too.

I doubt Sunstate or Eastern will be taking over the cobham operation anytime soon when they have a crewing shortage. This is when the jet operators recruitment have slowed down in the past 12 months.

I doubt Sunstate or Eastern will be taking over the cobham operation anytime soon when they have a crewing shortage. This is when the jet operators recruitment have slowed down in the past 12 months


If Qantas were ever to take over the Boeing 717 operation, doubt it would not have anything to do with Sunstate or Eastern crews. In house Qantas still operates the Boeing 717 operation as Airlink. The Airlink-Sunstate-Eastern AOCs I figure will always remain separate.

As when Qantas took over Impulse Airlines the Tech Crews, Cabin Crews and B717 Engineers went with the aircraft. Qantas have a cost effective set up with National Jet (Cobham) to run the Qantaslink Jet ops. Guess we will know soon enough.

Jets are Definately on the way. Currently recruiting a "Training and Policy Development Specialist" with jet time greater than 50t and International experience. Probably looking for someone to incorporate A319 procedures into the FCOM:hmm:

My thoughts exactly :cool:

What, like one of their mates?? No way. :E

Is this advertised anywhere?

Thanks

I have heard from an extremely reliable source very high up in management that Qantaslink will be used to launch Virgin Galactic!

Unseen, it's advertised internally at this stage. However the vacancy was rather tucked away. The troops haven't been jumping around with glee for what could be read into this (they probably didn't even notice the vacancy at all to be honest!)

Interesting times ahead...

Fuel-Off :ok:

A319 75T
CS100 53T

Or.......old mate is back from the desert. Welcome home buddy.

Intergrated seniority list...
 

If it happens Qlink will be stapled to the bottom of Mainlines.
Why would they bring the groups together anyway? It'll only give the combined groups more leverage.Not going to happen.....

pcpilot, there are two separate issues there: one is the seniority list and the other is an industrial issue (EBA).

Having combined seniority, IMHO, benefits both the company and the pilot group ( if done fairly ).

Having everyone on the same EBA is, IMHO, not in the company's best interests, if PIA was taken during an EBA negotiation, the whole pilot workforce would be involved. If there are multiple EBA's this can not / is unlikely to happen.

What ever happens whether it be new jets at Qlink, Network or J* you can be sure it will all be at the expense of mainline in a move to drive down cost and and wages. Whilst there is a fair argument about sustainability of mainline in this day and age. Bidding fellow Groups against each other for the work and giving the bulk of it to who ever has the lower cost base is only going to ensure our industry heads the same direction as the US aviation industry.. Food stamps will be next. Surely it can be done without internal competition.

If people think that is funny they obviously are totally oblivious to this industry.

I didn't know that anyone was making a fair argument that mainline T&C are sustainable. Desirable, traditional, not being negotiated away, yes. But which brave economist is mounting an argument for "sustainable"?

But I share concerns about Q Group's goal of driving down costs by farming out the work to subsidiaries. Group managers will get around Australian workplace laws one way or another, and it won't be their own T&C's being reduced.