QF training slots
 

Rumour has it late this week Qantas annual training slots will be announced..

Any idea what to expect?

Lots of A330 slots. Rumours of max training for the next two years. Unfortunately it will only be an offset for losses of airframes on other fleets.

30 x Capt 330, 30+ x FO 330 & some 737 slots here and there is my guess.

Slots are contractually due to be released TODAY, but QF will not be releasing them today, because they cant get it right.........

SDB would be pretty close, rumours of 30 plus in Capt/FO 330, around the same for the 737 (seen the divisors lately though:confused:) plus a stackload of residuals on the 737. 330 mostly A slots - id be expecting alot of movement on the 737:ok:

Strong rumours of a 330 Perth base :eek: farking hope not!!!

Promise everything and deliver nothing of note.

The rumour mill suggests 4 A330 crew per month for the next 2 years. That is, 48 commands and 48 F/O slots plus whatever residuals exist in the next training year.

Can't see it myself unless there is something else that hasn't been announced. We'll all know very soon.

How many years seniorority are we looking at for a 330 fo gig these days 10+?

More like 14-15 based on the residuals that came out a few weeks ago. You've got 13 year FOs off the 767 bidding back to be 380 S/Os at the moment. Crazy times.

we'll see how junior the Perth 330 FO slots go....

it's currently a bit over 9 years for syd 737 FO. bloody ridiculous

Why would there be a Perth A330 base ?

It's not like they fly to NRT, HKG or SIN (more than once / day).

ODL,

Don't forget that under the Leprechaun's Grand Strategy, as the 787s arrive into that amaaaaaaaaazing business, the A330s that are redeployed back to mainline are largely to service the Perth-East Coast routes (and compete with Virgin).

In this context, a Perth base wouldn't be that surprising.

A PER 330 base also allows QF to fly direct to DXB, as well on to certain European cities that EK have long had difficulty accessing.

Which cities would they be? Not being smart, just curious.

PER A330 base confirmed on the CP blog. Given the reduction in flying, I have to admit I'm surprised. As for operating PER DXB xxx, I'd be surprised. The base is very small in its initial numbers.

They really should be flying PER-DXB-XXX with one or more 330s, but I doubt it's going to happen. It would make far too much sense....

I think a more likely scenario is:

PER - SYD - PER - SYD - PER - BNE - PER - MEL - PER - MEL - PER - SYD - PER ......get the drift?

30 A330 capt
30 A330 FO
28 B737 capt
10 B737 FO

and there you have it folks

Sorry to be picky but it is:
28 Capt A330
28 F/O A330
28 Capt 737
10 F/O 737

Airbus slots MEL and Per (a couple of Sydney F/Os)
737 slots mixed bases.

Good luck!:ok:

All Capt A330 slots are identified as "A" slots rather than "Q"

Perth Airbus base starting June 2014.

There will be residual 737 slots on top of that to cater for those 737 drivers going to the A330- unless that is the 737 slots they've already advertised. Not quite the 'training tsunami' that a few people have been talking about on the A330.... at least in the short term.

There is a card they may be keeping up their sleeve. Will be interesting to see how that pans out over the next 4-6 months.

Yes should be a fair bit of residual coming up.

Tankengine, that's ok mate. As I was writing it I was thinking was it 28 or 30? To hard to check the FSO again.

It will be interesting to see who goes where considering 767 F/Os are going to the 380 as S/Os rather than the 737.
Of course some of the 737 slots will go to 64 year old 747 Captains.:rolleyes:
The 747 will still be over staffed.
At least some new Captains on the 737 will be happy to have changed seats.:ok:

A330 Captain
15 PER,
14 MEL

A330 F/O:
4 SYD
9 MEL
15 PER

737 Captain
9 Bris
7 Per
10 Mel
2 Syd

737 F/O
1 BNE
2 MEL
5 SYD
2 PER

One F/O went S/O A380 when they had the seniority to be F/O A330! :eek:

I don't blame them.

Big pay rise. No responsibility. Better destinations. More time off.

And you get to spend half the flight in the bunk on your back getting paid overtime to dig for prime nose gold.

It's not for me but I can understand how a decade of SYD - MEL - SYD could do that to a person.

Do the "J" numbers get a look in for the commands? How far off are the J numbers for a A330 command?

You're kidding right?

Of course the J numbers get a look in.

They're only 2000 numbers off the mark though........:E

As the MOU has provided so inclined QF pilots with opportunities over the last few years, it will provide JQ pilots with such opportunities down the track. I'm guessing a JQ number would get you a 737 FO slot or (if it exists) a 767 residual slot maybe. However, probably in 10 years or so it will get you an A330/787 command if those slots exist. I can't for the life of me understand why an eligible JQ pilot (who would already have a command) would want to get rid of the MOU now. It doesn't cost you anything if you've already got your command and it can only provide benefits down the track.

Ineligible JQ pilots are the ones leading you down the garden path on that one.

Yet again, my whelm has been completely under-ed.

So any guesses how low the lowest will go?

I'm guessing that will be Perth based stuff this time?

The new base really throws all guesses out......

What's the word on street. A lot of 767 crew/ east coast must be a bit jaded. Not a lot about if you are not prepare to move

SO A380 is looking good.

Bid Long to Short Haul & miss out on the FWA determined backpay in the process. :ugh:

Haven't seen these possies advertized yet for us J* jocks...

Not happy AIPA:mad:

There is only 130 Jetstar Pilots who have access to the MOU.

If it goes to vote, even if those guys want to keep it, the rest don't.

If the scope was broadened there may be more support for it. Right now, it's a waste of time for the other 90% of Jetstar guys, hence the lack if support.

It'll be gone this EBA unless it's derailed by the Irishman.

jetstar pilot.

The MOU slots are at the same clerks "in tray" as the JQ 787 slots and all other JQ promotions happening other than the Darwin quarantined base.

It's time that EVERY slot available both at QF & JQ are published & available to ALL crew per the MOU.

JQ guys & girls would certainly be in the running for 737 slots out of Perth & one would imagine not too far off 737 Commands in Perth.

MC.

Sounds like a really complicated place to work..

Just what position would you expect?

I joined QF in 2002 and my seniority wouldn't get me within cooee of an A330 F/O position. If you are a JQ skipper who joined JQ the day JQ started in 2003 that would put you behind me in Q Group seniority. As such your seniority falls, at best, with a B737 F/O in Perth or S/O on the A330. I doubt you would even get an A380 S/O slot as these are being bid for by pilots senior to me.

Although since you're probably part of the entitled generation and expect to be given a command within 5 minutes of joining JQ I expect they should be creating an A380 command slot just to keep you happy.

How about a little bit if a reality check and get in F#%*¥G line pal!

The Jetstar MOU numbers wouldn't be anywhere close to any commands, as previously said possibly an F/O on the 737 but maybe even not...the time will come down the track where the numbers could throw up some possibilities so if I was in J* there's no way I would want the MOU deal thrown out.....