And as a Passenger, how would you know that?

BS

SandyPalms, can't you read? GuilhasXXI quite clearly stated "Being a frequent passenger has lead me many times to the cockpit", so clearly GuilhasXXI is perfectly informed about correct procedures in the cockpit... :E

Ixixly, and can you read? Have you got any ideia of what kind of training TAP pilots go through ? I guess you don´t...:ok:

capt K
I'm not basing my statement on their report.
I'm basing it on pictures of Qantas Aircraft off the end of runways, bent 717s in Qantas colours, numerous RR engine failures on a clapped out fleet of 747s, exploding RR engines on A380s where it seems RR knew their was a problem but kept it to themselves...
Top 10 material, no I don't think so for either of them. In the case of RR luckily for them there isn't to much competition or I dare say they would be sued out of being...just MHO.

I can read, it was more me having a go at the perceived level of experience your post gives!! Makes you sound like an everyday passenger deciding that sitting in the cockpit makes them able to make valid comments on the topic of "Training Quality"

Not really a go at you as I honestly don't know what your level of aviation expertise is, but you gotta admit, looks kinda funny!! Be kind of like me standing on the bridge of the Costa Concordia on the 12th of January 2012 and commenting on how the Captain and Crew are really well trained and obviously know exactly what they're doing based on the many visits i've made to the bridge.

Pilot Wannabe
 

Come on man,
No Qatar airways?

Pilot Wannabe
 

Hi guys!

How do I start, I want to chanlenge myself to become a pilot after flying 4 years as Cabin Crew.
Currently I working with Qatar Airways.
I plan to take CPL at QAC the nearest and the only one I guess in here.
So I already appreciate your guidelines,knowledge,infos, opinion any comments regarding of what to do at first overall for beginner like me!

T.Q

Nothing was impossible, I hope so!
Cheers!

Ixixly, I hear you, but I had written on that same post that I was lucky enough to be a bit ' inside' TAP's pilots training, It´s quite obvious that no matter how many times you´ve been to the cockpit you cannot judge the safetiness of an Airline, well, only if you´ve been in there during an emergency I guess lol.

Guilherme

And my point was, how could you be informed about the training of pilots in OTHER airlines just because you have visited the flight deck of TAP aircraft (and have insider knowledge of how they are trained)? You seem to think because you've seen what TAP pilot go through, That must somehow be better than any other airline.

So I ask again. How on earth would you know that?

Total BS

Back to basics folks.....

Absence of accidents/reportable incidents DOES NOT EQUAL SAFETY

Just thought I'd mention that

Algie

SandyPalms, I would rather not answer that here, but If you really wish to know, I could tell you via PM, It woudn´t be right for me to adverstise something I really wasn´t supposed to know.

Guilherme

Oh go away. You have no idea how transparent you sound. Go away and finish your homework.

So I guess 'simple' emergency landings, smoke in the cabin and stuff like that haven´t been taken into account... correct ?

wow someone´s in a mood, quick tip, if you want to talk I´ll hear you, I surely don´t come up here for someone like you who doesn´t know me at all to judge me. I´m not here to fight, just to learn, so If you want to start a rude argument go somewhere else, you won´t be lucky here ;)

I fly TAP a lot too. I believe the FD have definitely lifted their game operationally. However, their cabin crew do leave a lot to be desired.
I fly on a lot of different European airlines and also Russian ones :ooh: occasionally some US ones too.

True, I´ve got a cabin crew member on my ATPL class and she says they are being taken to the limits in terms of working hours, she claims that´s the reason why lately people say that TAP crew are not as 'welcoming' as they were before. I guess this has to do with the govenaments crisis and the fact that they want to sell TAP. They are trying to inject as little money as possible into the Airline.

I've been flying on TAP for 8 years now.
The attitude to the job has not changed.
However, talking and still standing in the galley whilst on final is not acceptable. (4 years ago) They only bothered to take their seats during the go-round.
How did I know they were on final, gear down, 2nd stage of flap selected.
The go-round was pretty obvious. (I suspect either windshear or unstable approach (well done by the flight crew).
There may well be brilliant individuals, however, overall, the cabin crew's attitude to the job needs to change.
Sorry.

wow, thanks for trying to know more about me, care to know the rest ? :D

Not particularly.

The idiocy of your post is simply that you imply that you know how other airlines pilots are trained. And that TAP pilot are trained better. That is something that you CAN NOT know. You are a BS artist. I am not in a mood. I'm just uninterested in a fool coming on here thinking he can swing it with the big boys, when he is so obviously not even remotely informed. Your not fooling anyone mate.

I have absolutely no explanation to do whatsoever to you, posts like that don´t even deserve a response, you don´t know me, and don´t clearly know what my experience is, so you, such a 'big boy' why don´t you go back to knitting and keep your bad mood to yourself ?