I understand that “last in first out” is stated in the current procedure. It is taken from your date joining the company NOT from the date in your current section. This is a flawed process!

Because of this there will be people that recently got transferred over from EOC were they were employed as painters/welders/cleaners etc. Following their “up-skilling program (and I use the word loosely) there will now be less likely to be selected for CR.

Why should they have a better chance of surviving the CR,over someone who has served a full apprenticeship, and was selected to work on the aircraft not in workshops. There was a reason they were placed in EOC in the first place.:mad:

On another point, why should a person who has only worked for the company for say 8 years, passed his license exams, done internal courses fuel tank/fork lift/ FDO etc, be made to accept CR when someone has sat on their arse for 15 years and done f@#$$ all. There has to be a fairer process?:ugh:

This is not aimed at the LAME’s as I understand additional type training was and still is selected on which club you belong too or who your father played golf with.
PV

Great post, Binrow.

This is the kind of thing that I was hoping for when I posted a while ago.

When redundancy is staring you in the face, and you have ONLY ever been in aviation, it's hard to see yourself anywhere else. To have someone post what they have done since and that it went well is a real positive for all concerned.

There IS life after Qantas....:)

Aero,

No worries, as I stated if you want a chat or ask some questions PM, happy to help. I have never faced the VR/CR that you guys are but there is a big big world outside of the rat.

My thoughts exactly Binrow.

Dumb down your resume and explain you job in layman's terms.
Troubleshooting
Man Management
Time Management etc.

Think that you are explaining your job to someone who does not know it is on aircraft but any other piece of machinery/product.

Binrow,

Thanks, but I'm fine, as like you, I been there done that. Just putting my two cents worth hoping it helps.

I agree wholeheartedly with you Binrow, after heavy shutdown I found that whilst you had experience in lots of areas, if you didn't have a certificate for the real world they weren't interested.

It comes down to selling yourself and spelling out what you did. If you can get an interview you need to talk yourself up, you may not have the paper they want, but they can help you achieve that if you sell yourself well.

Job interviews at Qantas are a load of ****e. A lot of the time the job has already been decided and they are going through the motions to make it legit.

If you haven't had a job outside of QF or any interview experience speak to other people who have, also you will fiind the questions a lot of places ask are very similiar.

Pterois Volitans.. I understand that this is a very emotional topic for you and there are many of us in the same boat but there is no need to deride other guys who have also faithfully served the company for many years. Our stoush should not be with each other but with the company!

I have worked with a number of good engineers who completed their upskilling program and just because someone worked in EOC doesn't necessarily make them any less competent than someone who has spent all their time out on the aircraft. I have also worked with some guys who are completely out of their depth when working on the aircraft (both ex-EOC AND Hangars!)

binrow.. :D :ok:

:ok: @ Binrow :D

nice, positive post

AMEs 457 visas
 

Should the government remove AMEs/LAMEs from the 457 visa list now that QF are putting so much new labour on the market.

Let me think YES ages ago :ugh:

I think "chief executive officer/managing director" is on that same list. Must be a skills shortage in that department in this country??????

Meanwhile the countdown continues.8 hours remaining for vr eoi.

nicely summed up binrow,there is loads of work out side Qantas,don't waste your talents on people who that doesn't give 2 sh!ts about you,move on;)

I think that is amply demonstrated.:eek:

Chasing some stuff for a court case. Does anyone in Syd or Bne know the Emirates Reps? If so pls pm me. I have heard that EK want Qantas to handle their aircraft and Nassenstein has told them to get nicked.

cheers

Is this an example of 'looking after Mother' to quote on of your earlier posts about NastySwine? Obviously, Mothrer's children must be killed off at all costs...

When do the Lmo national VR's close ?

From an Australian government website.

Aircraft Maintenance Engineers - Job Outlook

"Employment for Aircraft Maintenance Engineers to 2016-17 is expected to decline."

"The mix of industries employing Aircraft Maintenance Engineers is not favourable for employment growth prospects."

The growth for aircraft maintenance engineers job vacancies is expected to grow -21.3% over the next 2 years. For the layman, over 1/5th jobs lost.

Yet it still remains on the skills shortage list. WHAT A FU$%ING JOKE!

I wonder if things will be any clearer tomorrow now that the EOI has ended. Or will they drag it out and not let the people who want to leave go when they want to.

This week was flat out with the new crew structure, with seniors spread thin between aircraft, at times only 1 avionics licence to cover 3 or more aircraft. Its going to be awesome when more people go.

VR
 

Was told earlier this week by a mate based in Syd that only 6 people were interested in relocating to Bris Vegas heavy maint. This certainly would not be what the American cockh??d would of expected.
Anyone prepared to give a guesstimate as to how many Lame's will opt for VR between Syd and Avalon ?.
On the subject of CR I must say I don't believe there're could be a more inept or incompetent group than the current QF HR department. This group have proven inept in the simplest tasks, I shudder to think what a God almighty mess they will make of the complex CR process. I guess though the CR process is only complex if you endeavor to to make it fair and transparent 2 things which have never concerned this group in the past.

On another note
The guys who moved from Tulla to BNE heavy must be at decision time as to staying on or opt out via the 3 month clause. I was told that at least one Tulla guy decided to opt out and head back south. Will this prove to be the exception or the norm ?.
Cheers