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Ramjager 11th Nov 2012 12:56

EK413 engine failure..
 
Just landed back in Sydney after losing the number 3.
Oh and its a 380 and just after this was in the paper this morning!

A380 engine failure a 'big wake-up call': Emirates

bubble.head 11th Nov 2012 13:01

Unless you are Marty Mcfly, the article you've referenced is from November 11th 2010.

SOPS 11th Nov 2012 13:05

That was what I was just about to say!

Ramjager 11th Nov 2012 13:07

Oh well whats a couple of years when it comes to the media!!
sorry had it flicked to me this morning..

wooski 11th Nov 2012 23:45

I think you meant this one
#3 engine went bang of some-sort.

Emirates A380 in a Sydney mid-air engine explosion | News.com.au

sinala1 11th Nov 2012 23:46

Guessing this is the article being referred to:

Emirates A380 in a Sydney mid-air engine explosion | News.com.au


DISTRESSED passengers told how they survived a mid-air emergency last night when an Emirates A380's engine exploded at 10,000 feet and forced it to turn back for an emergency landing.
About 20 minutes after leaving Sydney, Emirates flight EK413 experienced an "engine fault'' en route to Dubai.

"I saw a flash,'' John Fothergill, 49, from Auckland, said. "I thought it could have been lightening but then we saw flames come out of the engine. The whole interior of the A380 lit up.

"You'd have to say there were two or three metre flames. (The) explosion shook the plane, there was a bigger judder.''

Emirates flight attendants responded by moving straight to the windows that faced out to the engine.

They observed the damaged and asked the passengers what they had seen.

Mr Fothergill's wife, Dr Amal Aburawi, questioned how the Emirates staff reacted and said, "The staff panicked more than the passengers.''

She said: "Everyone was running left and right (with) no one knowing what's happened.''

"I was in the same incident in 1988 when I was travelling on Alitalia, (so) it was (a) flash back to what happened (there). It was exactly the same (but) the way it was being handled on Alitalia was so organised and calmer than what's happened tonight.''

Dr Aburawi furthermore criticised Emirate's flight attendants for not properly informing some non-English speaking passengers of the incident.

"I'm a frequent flyer on Emirates,'' she said. "Usually its Arabic announcement following the English, (but) this time no one mentioned anything in Arabic and there (were) many Arabic passengers, many of them old ladies.

"I held (an Emirates flight attendant) by the hand and said, 'Can you ask someone to do the announcement in Arabic because there are Arabic people who will not understand what's happening with this panic situation'.

"(She said she would) send Arabic speaking staff to tell them and calm them down. (But) I checked with them when we landed and no one spoke to them. They don't know why we landed back in Sydney.

"This is where I feel angry, I feel angry for the way non-English speaking passengers faced this situation.

"Emirates should be well trained in this.

"I hope Emirates will get some lessons out of this.''

Emirates said an "engine fault'' was to blame for the incident.

The pilot contacted ground crew at Sydney Airport and a decision was made to dump fuel and turn the plane around.

Emirates said, "Passengers are being re-booked on alternative flights (and) Emirates apologises for any inconvenience caused to its customers.''

slamer. 11th Nov 2012 23:47

Engine explodes on Emirates flight



11:21 AM Monday Nov 12, 2012 http://media.nzherald.co.nz/webconte...14_220x147.jpg




A New Zealander says "two or three metre flames" were coming from the engine of an Emirates A380 flight which had an engine explode mid-flight last night.
Emirates flight EK413 was forced to turn around after it suffered an "engine fault" at 10,000 feet, about 20 minutes after leaving Sydney for Dubai, news.com.au reported.
Aucklander John Fothergill, 49, told news.com.au he saw a "flash" before the plane started to shake.
"I thought it could have been lightning but then we saw flames come out of the engine. The whole interior of the A380 lit up.
"You'd have to say there were two or three metre flames. (The) explosion shook the plane, there was a bigger judder.''
Mr Fothergill's wife, Dr Amal Aburawi, questioned the response of staff on the flight.
"The staff panicked more than the passengers," she told news.com.au.
"Everyone was running left and right (with) no one knowing what's happened.''

She also criticised the staff for not making an announcement in Arabic following the English announcement.
"This is where I feel angry, I feel angry for the way non-English speaking passengers faced this situation."
The plane dumped fuel and turned around, landing back at Sydney Airport about 11.30pm local time.
Emirates said an engine fault was responsible for the incident.
Fairfax motoring journalist Matt Campbell was also aboard the flight. He had heard the incident may have been caused by bird strike.
"I didn't see flames but the flash that I saw would be consistent with an engine exploding," he told the Sydney Morning Herald.
"It was a bright orange light, I didn't see it for more than a split second, but it was still a very scary sight."

Bagus 12th Nov 2012 00:21

Singapore Airlines has 11 471-seat A380s in its fleet, all powered by Rolls-Royce. The company said yesterday that it planned to take three of the jets out of service for as long as 48 hours to change the engines, in a precautionary measure after "slight" oil staining was found. Deutsche Lufthansa AG, the only other user of the Trent 900, replaced an engine on one jet.

Read more: Travel - smh.com.au



Old story - link no longer works.

Blue Pineapple 12th Nov 2012 00:23

That's okay, the Captain can now demand 4 months off for stress counselling.............oh and to write a book of his heroic exploits!:D

The Bungeyed Bandit 12th Nov 2012 00:25

Hope their not relying on QF to lend them an engine. They have one Dugong in H416 with an engine change due to cracked gearbox and another in H96 undergoing an extended "A" check with attrition lining to be replaced. Also heard they're nursing the rest of the 380 fleet's Rollers due to a required mod program that requires them to be cycled through SACL workshop.

These new aircraft that don't need any maintenance and fix themselves are fantastic.

MASTEMA 12th Nov 2012 00:29

Bigger Judder!
 
Mmmm that A380 has nice big Judds!:p

Nothing much on the news here in the sandpit, but no doubt Richard the C will be on the telly tonight referring us to his bible and how they should have handled landing a four engined aircraft with just three engines, on a short-ish 4000m runway :ok:

المزاح فقط ريتشارد!

Inshallah

smiling monkey 12th Nov 2012 00:35

Another Emirates A380 had an inflight shutdown just a few days ago.

Incident: Emirates A388 near Kosice on Nov 7th 2012, engine shut down in flight

And on the same day, an Emirates 777 had one too.

Incident: Emirates B773 near Mumbai on Nov 7th 2012, engine shut down in flight

Bagus 12th Nov 2012 00:42

Hopefully Tim is not taking Alan Joyce advise,new aircraft does not require maintenance,

Olivia Howes 12th Nov 2012 00:55

I don't see what the issue is. The safety of the passengers was never at risk.

AWB_Clerk 12th Nov 2012 00:57

Unless new aircraft come with R2-D2 astro-mech droids capable of clinging to the surface of the aircraft in flight whilst carrying out repairs then the statement that new aircraft don't need maintenance or are self healing will always be a load of cods wallop.

swh 12th Nov 2012 01:00


Originally Posted by smiling monkey
Another Emirates A380 had an inflight shutdown just a few days ago.

Incident: Emirates A388 near Kosice on Nov 7th 2012, engine shut down in flight

And on the same day, an Emirates 777 had one too.

Incident: Emirates B773 near Mumbai on Nov 7th 2012, engine shut down in flight

Who would have ever thought that GE engine ever failed. This along with the 747-8F that had the GEnx engine failure on takeoff, and the two GEnx engines on the 787s with cracks subject to NTSB investigation.

Busy month for GE engine replacements, more than a $100 million dollars worth of engines, nice way to generate profits.

Bagus 12th Nov 2012 01:05

Lucky it was not a code share QF/EK flight otherwise it would be a headline all over the news

Nepotisim 12th Nov 2012 01:06

Bungeye, The Rat won't be lending any engines.

Emirates have the Engine Alliance GP7200.:ok:

The Bungeyed Bandit 12th Nov 2012 01:32

OOPS, sorry about that Nepotism. Forgot about that little technicality. Still, they won't want to borrow a hangar. H96 - Dugong with extended "A" check, H416east - 330 that's been there for over a month with damaged Horizontal Stab, H416west - another Dugong with an unscheduled engine change.

Tidbinbilla 12th Nov 2012 01:37

And...... back on topic. This is an Emirates thread, thanks :)


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