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600ft-lb 12th Oct 2012 12:42

I understand JHAS needed a foot in the door, which is where my point will lead. But now they're in the game, it's obvious this isn't a cheap sport. Skilled labour costs money, facilities cost money, training costs, safety costs, everything costs.

The race to the bottom in terms of chasing the ever lower expectation of the LCC and international operators by providing the service at absolute minimum cost has had this effect on JHAS.

If JHAS were able to charge customers more then the cost of doing the business would they be running at a loss ?

I think it's time the AMSA's and JHAS's and the IASA's(RIP) stop pandering to the unreal expectations of foreign and local carriers for doing the work for next to nothing. It's not JHAS's fault they are trying to balance running a profitable business with a fully compliant service to the industry. We should be at least glad there is a further airliner based career path out there except the major airlines.

I just make this suggestion, the next time Air "insert 3rd world country here" says we want to pay $50/transit, tell them its $1000 - ie the cost of doing business plus a bit on top, it will only benefit us all.

genxfrog 12th Oct 2012 13:25

JHAS GM (yeah right)....you say redundancies are simply awful and we have to maintain the right mix of skills and licences. Then you terminate the employment of LAME's with the most skills and Licences? How does that make sense? You say that "we are on the right track and things are improving" Are you kidding? JHAS has lost millions and continues to lose money on a monthly basis. You say "the whole team is pushing forward a program of activity....etc, etc". Obviously a team that doesn't involve its employees or encourage input from the workforce. In fact, anyone with any constructive criticism will find themselves with the lowest scores on some manipulated "skills" matrix that you use to select who is made redundant and who stays. Events of the past few days confirms this.
If you really are the GM, then let your actions and not your words build the confidence of the workforce. We've heard it all before from those before you and when the going got tough.....they were the first to seek highly paid transfers to another part of the John Holland Group or left completely. Those who really give a stuff about the Industry and specifically JHAS are still here.

600ft-lb 12th Oct 2012 13:53

All companies are like that genx. There are the wheelers and dealers who spend more time off the tools then on, they're looked upon as the go getters. The ones that have a clue are not usually recognised for the real, core value they bring to an organisation.

That's just something I've noticed working at the big Q

The ones who were given the DCM probably spoke out about safety/quality/poorly performing staff or made an insecure 'boss' look stupid.

ALAEA Fed Sec 12th Oct 2012 20:44

I hope you are reading this Manager. Read the last 3 posts. Actions speak louder than words. What you did last week is in complete contrast with what you are saying. Ok. You do not have enough work and must reduce the workforce size, we understand that. You sacked the wrong people.

The best workers spend their time on the job. They don't seek limelight or credit for what they do. They don't get on here and tell everyone they are better than the rest, Pacificmarlin style. They report problems so you know what really needs to be fixed and they don't cut corners. These are the most valuable people in your Aviation business. Instead you have rated highly the ones who spend more time inflating their own value by putting down others, Pacificmarlin style.

I know the blokes you sacked and have worked with them. Your business won't succeed when you get rid of your best people.

Talking about profit. How much have you blown in court rooms preventing the staff securing a poroper wage agreement? You have lost a big case and now even have to pay the legal fees for the unions. This is madness. You should sit down with us and work out how to make your business successful and abandon this idea that cost cutting is the key. It just creates more problems.

I could write 10 pages of advice for you on here. When I know that you are interested in a successful business model I will. Until then, I hope you go back to construction and allow a real aviation company to take charge of those hangars.

Arnold E 12th Oct 2012 22:58


We should be at least glad there is a further airliner based career path out there except the major airlines.
Like where, for instance??

NuckingFuts 18th Oct 2012 09:59

JHAS GM, I imagine this is you

Conflict cloud over myki man's new job | theage.com.au

A picture of corporate integrity.

Tickets please?

gobbledock 18th Oct 2012 12:40

Corporate integrity??? Ha Ha Ha
 
And don't forget this little 'gem' below. Nice reward one may question. How much did ASA pay Metron again????:


Metron Aviation Appoints Greg Russell as Executive Aviation Advisor

Dulles, Virginia - August 20,
2012 - Metron Aviation, a subsidiary of Airbus Americas and member of
the Airbus ProSky Alliance, is pleased to announce the appointment of Greg Russell as Executive Aviation Advisor for the Asia Pacific region. Mr. Russell joins Metron Aviation from Airservices Australia where he was Chief Executive Officer and possesses over 30 years of aviation experience in developing strategies and applying technologies to transform the performance of air transportation systems.

Mr. Russell is a recognized Air Traffic Management (ATM) and Collaborative Decision Making (CDM) visionary who spearheaded Airservices Australia's initiatives to improve air traffic efficiency and environmental performance. During Mr. Russell's tenure, Airservices positioned themselves as a world leader in the utilization of cutting-edge technology to enable real-time collaboration among airline, airport and Air Navigation Service Provider (ANSP) operations. His key programs have produced dramatic, measurable benefits for Australia's aviation stakeholders, improving flight times, lowering delays and decreasing congestion, all while reducing emissions and fuel burn. Until recently he was Vice Chair of the Civil Air Navigation Service Organisation (CANSO) and Chair of the CANSO Asia Pacific
CEO Committee."
Metron Aviation - Metron Aviation Appoints Greg Russell as Executive Aviation Advisor

NuckingFuts 9th Nov 2012 05:01

So what's the word on the street folks, how long has the place left to run?

easily_confused 9th Nov 2012 20:26

Yawn, why don't you just give it up Nucking Futs and wish this place success. Do you want to see more people out of jobs?

fruitloop 10th Nov 2012 22:51

imperial shifter.
Were you a compulsory or a "Volunteer" ?? If compulsory you have my sympathies.
As you have stated a number of 330 and 320 engineers have been made redundant,how many "refused" to work "flexible hours".??
pacificmarlin.
As several have stated you must be a "pleasure" to work with..
aintsaying.
Your statement regards "Time management vs Expectations"is so true..


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