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bddbism 6th Aug 2012 13:11

Sydney Airport Carpark
 
For those who are being kicked out to the long term staff carpark in a few days time, the question beckons; SACL have quoted a maximum waiting time for shuttle busses of 28 minutes each way. This equates - especially to ground staff/short haul crew - to roughly an extra day of work every 8 days just to find a carpark! Should there be some sort of compensation for this (eg discounted rail passes similar to the Brisbane setup) or is it just a case of suck it up princess?

Whilst i'm sure the railway cares deeply about our parking arrangements, me thinks the latter.

stewbake 6th Aug 2012 14:51

The question is how many kms extra are we travelling by being shifted round there? That is the only constant, but as Sydney Airport has admitted its a purely commercial decision, if we had enough people interested, would we have the grounds for a group claim for redress?

ga_trojan 6th Aug 2012 23:31

The real issue is having staff on buses with the general public. Only a matter of time before it comes to blows between some angry customer and a airline employee.

FoxtrotAlpha18 7th Aug 2012 00:30

ga_t...what's the difference? We long term parking pax have to share the busses now with Jetstar & Virgin, and have never seen any kind of "blows"

Wedcue 7th Aug 2012 03:41

Late night travel back to the carpark on a bus with a group of "lads" clearly targeting the blonde flight attendant. It would have been classified as sexual harassment if it were a work place, but hey, it's no longer the work place is it? Yet it's the only way to get to your car after your shift.

Hands up for a crew bus, Melbourne have one, why can't Sydney?

hadagutfull 7th Aug 2012 05:06

Why are there staff still in the long term car park ?
Why are staff getting punted from the terminal car park?
There are 2 monstrous car parks now plus all the paved areas .
How can there be no room??

bddbism 7th Aug 2012 05:06

I guess as per the norm with reactive businesses nothing will be done until someone gets hurt. And even then, if it's cheaper to put a security guard on the bus rather than run a staff bus they'll probably do that. Bit help he is in a hi-vis vest at the front of a packed bus!

Hopefully once managers start dealing with the same problems they'll be a bit more voiceful in campaigning, assuming of course they haven't already negotiated special deals.

Are there not also staff busses in BNE and PER?

myshoutcaptain 7th Aug 2012 05:17

PER (basket case) DOM and INT bus carparks , crew with pax. They built bus stops with angled entries and exits , why not the same for taxiways across the fence :ugh:

blueys 7th Aug 2012 05:46

crew bus to opperate airside, security checks at car park or turminal is the answer

ga_trojan 7th Aug 2012 05:48

As it is explained to me by my employer the problem lies with SACL as they won't play ball on the staff bus issue. I guess they think the increased bus service will mitigate any problems.

Both BNE and MEL have dedicated staff busses seperate from the general public. Don't know the reason why they do but Sydney doesn't. There is a staff bus for Intl at SYD from the Long Term just not the Domestic.

Global Xpress 7th Aug 2012 23:50

So how is day 1?

gutso-blundo 8th Aug 2012 23:15

No replies... Maybe they're all still trying to get back to their cars :p

Global Xpress 8th Aug 2012 23:29


Originally Posted by gutso-blundo:7349689
No replies... Maybe they're all still trying to get back to their cars :p

Haha probably true.

Oktas8 9th Aug 2012 00:27


So how is day 1?
Hmm.
Staff #1 - used number 400 bus.
Staff #2 - train, Mascot station, Q crew bus from QCC to Terminal 3.
Staff #3 - train, Domestic station, didn't mind paying the platform fee.
Staff #4 - car, LT carpark, card didn't work, managed to get in after negotiation with carpark staff. Smooth sailing after that.
Staff #5-500 - don't know, didn't ask. I guess as per #4.

I think the whole problem will largely disappear when the train platform fee disappears, so using the train becomes affordable. That is likely to take at least several years though, as there are four parties involved - employer, SACL, station operator and state govt.

Cheers,
O8

Biatch 9th Aug 2012 12:29

Super stoked that my 30min door to door travel to work time has now doubled to 1 hour... Awesome... And I live in the city!!! Yet to see any problems on the bus.... Although on my first ride I was quizzed by a 4 year old...

nitpicker330 9th Aug 2012 12:57

Had ya stumped did he :E

bddbism 9th Aug 2012 12:59

1st day today, as expected. Have to leave home 1.5hrs before sign on, what a joke. it takes longer to fly to Canberra and back!

bddbism 9th Aug 2012 13:01

...shorter than canberra, that is.

Biatch 13th Aug 2012 05:47


nitpicker330 Had ya stumped did he
Ahhh left myself open I did.... Ho ho ho...

/topic.... Seems as though 30mins is the safe time allowance... Another example how SAC haven't planned more than 5 mins ahead for the last 20 years...

Metroboy 13th Aug 2012 09:28

Easy solution. Company can put the carpark wherever they like and provide whatever transport to the terminal they see fit. What they can't do is mess with rest periods. So on min rest if you miss or are waiting too long for the bus, call crewing and re adjust sign off time. A couple of lost trips and subsequent WDO call outs will make them sit up and take notice. If any manager keen to make a name for themselves tries to give you heat work with the union to ensure its brought to the attention of CASA. I'm sure it would arouse plenty of interest.


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