Problem with that is sign on/off isn't at the carpark its at the terminal so any time waiting is on your time. I don't think there is any way you could have it considered as duty by CASA even though it is associated with work and your only means of getting to the terminal.

The major fatigue issue is for those who live a reasonable distance from the airport. If they want you to allow 30 mins for a bus followed by a 1 hour commute it starts becoming a bit of a fatigue issue. It would also limit where you can live and be employed at the airport as many airlines and the engineers only work daily shifts.

Unfortunately we seem stuck between a rock and a hard place with commuting options. Whether you catch the train, park at long term or park at QCC and take the shuttle the time is roughy the same. With the train outrageously expensive there is no incentive to use PT either.

From CASA's point of view, is there any need for them to get involved in what is seemingly not a big issue? Yes, I agree there are huge fatigue problems but will it turn into a jetstar case of, 'not our problem. Manage your rest better if you're tired'

A couple of people have talked about < 28 minutes between buses, or allowing an extra 30 minutes to get to work. I'm not sure where that information comes from.

My employer told us that buses are scheduled to be 12 minutes apart. The SACL website quotes "Buses depart every 10 - 15 minutes and the trip to the terminal takes about 8 minutes, depending on traffic conditions" which seems accurate in practice, at least at this stage.

It used to take me 25 minutes garage-to-crewroom, now it seems to take 35 - 40 minutes for the same. Hardly worth getting union / CASA involved I would have thought.

Dedicated crew bus would be nice though.

Just bend over and enjoy it, up to you if you provide your own lube, the big question is, "Is the lube tax deductible as you are still traveling to or from work, but not actually working, even though the employer makes you travel at work for an extra 56 mins. :D

Reference?

My experience of 10-15 is the extra time it takes over the short term carpark option, total. Extra time on the bus in transit is offset by the time it used to take to drive up seven levels of carpark and walk down again.

Yes, I know, it's still an extra 20-30 minutes extra a day even with my numbers, which is annoying. I just hate the mindless exaggeration that seems to pervade some of these forums. This 28 minutes each way thing for example. Why not just stick to the verifiable facts and let them speak for themselves?

Wasting my breath no doubt. Hat, coat, door.

That would depend of which part of Sydney you are inbound from. If you are coming from the Northern side of the airport, the long term car park is a nightmare, as you have to drive the perimeter road (which in peak hour can take at least 10mins in itself) then get in the car park; then wait for the bus; then drive back along the same perimeter road again as opposed to just pulling up in the short term car park and driving up a few levels. Those inbound from the West and or South it's not too bad as you turn off General Holmes straight into the long term anyway.