Well said Steve!!!!:ok:

Sunfish - Senator Sterle was a truckie before becoming a TWU official, and there are a few others that worked up the ranks so to speak.

HSU has been dire for years. Kathy Jackson's ex has a lot to answer in my view....

In relation to your last question and as Fed Sec noted, in my view any good work by unions for the interest of members and industry is still 'good work' regardless of what is happening around them. Sure every time Dave Oliver in his new role as ACTu Sec is going to have to answer questions about this stuff and defend the cause, but that won't diminish some of the other good work that unions do.

Greater transparency in business, including union business can inly be a good thing.

In an ideal world. In the unideal real world a lot of people are seeing the whole movement as one big rort, which is untrue. :sad:

Remember what happened to Catholic priests? Mention the two words and all most people say is 'child molester.' That's unfair, because most priests aren't child molesters, but that's what people think. Ask my cousin, he is a priest who no longer wears a dog collar in public because he's sick of the verbal abuse. And no, before anyone asks; he's not a child molester. He was a missionary, a tireless worker for the needy here and in many foreign countries, a great administrator and a damned good bloke, but all he hears in public if he's wearing 'uniform' are the words 'kid :mad:er.'

Mud sticks, and the mud Thomson and Co have dredged up for their own petty, puny and despicable goals has stuck to everyone in the union movement. :ugh:

Every honest person who wears the Eureka flag and works tirelessly for their members is copping abuse thanks to these self serving pricks. Try getting people to part with their hard earned cash for a membership when all they see on the news is Thomson's credit receipts. Oh, that's right, he's innocent until proven guilty. Maybe his dog borrowed his credit card, forged his signature and had a big night on the town :mad:. No-one's buying it.

Whether through ignorance or inaction the ACTU has allowed this to happen, and they deserve a group pineappling for that. It happened on their watch.
Agreed. First to the wall, the little toerags. They saw a buck in the labour rights 'business' and snouted their way to the trough. Not one of the little bastards has ever worked a year of their lives. Not one of them has served customers, dug holes, driven vans or fixed stuff for a living, apart from the odd student job between lectures. There's nothing wrong with going to uni (I've done it, paid for it and was grateful for the opportunity) but it's not being a worker. It's not the same as doing a job effectively for twenty years and now hoping like hell you don't get punted because you're the wrong side of fifty, only got to junior because the family needed you to earn, and have trouble getting the hang of all this new computer stuff. :(

Then they have the nerve to claim they're 'for the workers.' Grow the :mad: up, the workers aren't stupid and don't buy a word of it.

The HSU has handed a whopping big advantage to the Liberal Party and the anti union brigade, and all for drinks and prostitutes. What a great achievement. What a great step forward for worker rights. What a bunch of :mad:heads.

Yes, as usual, very well said Steve. :ok:

One thing I am curious about now, regardless of your and any other individuals personal political leanings I always understood the ALAEA was NOT aligned with any Political Party, is that true? :confused:

We have a 20 person Executive and not one of us is a member of any political party. We don't donate to them and we refuse to be pushed around by them.

Come election day I will man a polling booth handing out how to vote leaflets for the people we think will serve LAMEs best in the upcoming period. Looks like next election day I will be heading to South Australia to help Nick.

Thank you. :ok:

I was sure it was like that back in the Olde Days, glad it still is. :ok:

Also agree about Nick, about the ONLY Politician I have any time for. :ok:

....and to cap it all, I just received the latest gossip from Canberra, that a certain Ministers wife and kids have just moved out of the family house after he got his PA pregnant. They moved in with her Mum.

Not that there isn't a womaniser among the Liberal leadership.

Is it something in the water in Canberra?

And her Mum happens to be the G-G..............

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Did anyone catch Kelty's speech last night. A plain straight talker is Kelty but still has the vision.

I'm guessing the meeting a couple of weeks ago with the ACTU didn't resolve anything because the Fair Work Australia website is saying there is a hearing today?

Today was a directions hearing. Some timelines were set by the Commissioner. Qantas of course being represented by Freehills had to stick their nose in and will be siding with the non aviation specific unions. They would prefer to deal with people who know nothing about our industry.

I guess Qantas Management are happier dealing with people similar to themselves, that is ones that obviously know very little about Aviation. ;) :ok:

@airsupport

Why would QF Management deal with anyone else? One pack of know nothings dealing with another pack of know nothings. Anyone who thinks differently to them are cast aside as "not understanding" the importance of QANTAS's survival as they do.

All qantas ame's out there should ask themselves two basic questions, why are management trying soooo hard to have this dealt with through the craft unions? And based on that, who is going to get a better deal? Think about it and lobby your local reps.

I know we were talking politics earlier in this thread, just had a laugh at Senator Doug Cameron saying about Enterprise Migration Agreements that "you could drive a 737 Airbus through the policy".

Once upon a time he was a union secretary responsible for workers in the industry......

A few others come to mind. Greg Combet, Bob Hawke, etc etc. The union movement is usually a stepping stone into Canberra.

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? Where are all the unions / associations they all seem to have disappeared has anyone at Tulla or Avalon even seen them in the past weeks seems like they have just given up representing there members .