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Nudlaug 18th Mar 2012 08:48

Proactive?
 

I hope you replaced the frame on both sides, big mistake tearing all the cockpit and structure down to do one side only then some 12 months later have the other side crack.

Other operator now only doing double frame replacements
You mean being proactive? Are you crazy? This is Qantas 2012 under Joyce, they wouldn't look past the next 7 days :-P

SpannerTwister 19th Mar 2012 02:37


Originally Posted by Nudlaug
You mean being proactive? Are you crazy? This is Qantas 2012 under Joyce, they wouldn't look past the next 7 days :-P

I think you're the crazy one Nudlaug !!

To even suggest that the 'Roo has a 7 day forward plan is to signal to the world that you have no idea how management at the 'Roo works :p !

It's more like this ..............

Day 1 ........
See dry leaves

Day 2........
Notice leaf pile has increased in size and weather is getting warmer

Day 3.......
Notice weather is hotter and winds are increasing

Day 4.......
Notice known fire-bug in area

Day 5........
See known fire-bug playing with matches

Day 6.......
See small amount of smoke

Day 7.......
See large amount of smoke

Day 8.......
See small grass-fire

Day 9.........
See small bushfire

Day 10.......
See large bush-fire

Day 11.........
See catastrophic bush-fire

Day 12.........
OMG !!
Why weren't we warned ?
Look what the bl@@dy unions have done to us !
Look what the government has done to us !
Look what our competitors have done to us !
Look what the oil companies have done to us !
Look what the $A has done to us !
Look what the tourist market has done to us !

Days 13 - 19.........
Run around in circles repeating cries of day 12

Day 20.........
Send Liv in to face the press and reassure financial markets that all is well

Day 21.........
Make 50% of the troops redundant and send the remaining in to fight the fire

Day 22.........
Criticise the troops for taking so long to bring the fire under control

Day 23........
Bask in glory for having controlled the fire !

ST

porch monkey 19th Mar 2012 04:55

F@ckin' gold, that is!

Nudlaug 19th Mar 2012 06:29

Hehe Spanner got a point :-D

Ultralights 19th Mar 2012 06:31

how did you manage to convince Joyce to give you his long term business plan? :E

Jack Ranga 19th Mar 2012 06:40

He's gunna burn an Asian forest down before he starts here.

magic8 19th Mar 2012 07:52

After seeing my '2nd Thread' moved maybe the moderators know more than me regarding the redundancies.I believe that some Line LAME's from outside the affected areas(Mel-Bne-Syd-Adl) asked for figures to investigate the possibility of applying should there be a shortage of applications.I have been told that they were all refused.Maybe QF think they will get more than enough!!!
As to wether Heavy Maint LAMEs(When and if they are announced) will be able to swap with Line Maint should the need arise any ideas?

another superlame 3rd Apr 2012 08:54

I have heard a few rumbles that the current round of lay-offs are chicken feed.
When MoD comes into full swing some management have described the amount to go as a bloodbath.
This can't be good.

Jethro Gibbs 3rd Apr 2012 10:56

Why has the ALAEA gone so quite on everything of late .

ampclamp 3rd Apr 2012 11:38

alaea is talking to the company jethro regarding the carnage. LAME numbers fell short of that required. AM/AMEs overdone. I am sure that the alaea will push hard to see other ports included in the VR process. Whether they can force their hand or not is another question.

can we stop calling it MOD please ? it is just another biz speak euphemism to try and alter the fact of the matter being LESS maintenance on demand and lower safety standards.

Jethro Gibbs 11th Apr 2012 10:20

The maintenance review Team or whatever they are called visited Avalon last week well not exactly they stayed in a Geelong Hotel and never set foot on Avalon .

600ft-lb 11th Apr 2012 11:09


The maintenance review Team or whatever they are called visited Avalon last week well not exactly they stayed in a Geelong Hotel and never set foot on Avalon .
Are you sure ? That would imply somewhat that they haven't made a decision yet. From what I've been hearing straight from the mouths of management, there will only be 1 heavy maintenance facility at the end of all this, not this first round but the bloodbath thats down the road.

Enough to satisfy the requirements of the Qantas Sale Act. The only things that would influence the decision making process now is how much money can be extracted out of state governments to keep jobs from going overseas some more. Sorry, I meant, keep the remaining jobs onshore, as Alan keeps telling us, the jobs are gone, not outsourced but gone. Big difference.:confused:

Jethro Gibbs 11th Apr 2012 11:39



Are you sure ? That would imply somewhat that they haven't made a decision
yet
Everyone knows its all smoke and mirrors they have already made a decision its just a tour for appearance sake

Ngineer 11th Apr 2012 11:56


When MoD comes into full swing some management have described the amount to go as a bloodbath
You can probably thank CASA too for allowing aircraft maint within Australia to now run on the smell of an oily rag. Hence the complete disregard and contempt that some management are now showing for the standards, systems and previous track records that we had in place. Disgraceful.

SpannerTwister 11th Apr 2012 12:22

In the next six months QE is having "The Mother of all reorganisations"

1) Melbourne Heavy Maintenance to close

2) Melbourne Maintenance Scheduling to move to Sydney

3) Melbourne Maintenance Watch to move to Sydney

4) All supply / Engineering (degree engineers) / support to move to Sydney

5) Anyone else in "The White House" to be cleaned out

6) Redundancies (Round 1)

7) Marlin / Maintenix to replace Cameo

As far as I can see, each and every one of these, if it is to be attempted at all, should be done in complete isolation of the others.

All of these functions are Mission Critical, failure of any one of these could have catastrophic results for QE, and hence Qantas itself.

These, each and every one, are CORE FUNCTIONS of having an aircraft at the gate serviceable and ready to depart on-time.

Even with my rapidly fading eyesight I can see MANY unexpected hiccups along the way.

I believe, that with just the tiniest bit of common sense, when the wheel nuts are found to be loose and the wheels are wobbling off of the wagon, management will have no choice but to "defer" the implementation of MOD.

ST

(Best I say no more, but I am very reliably informed that a few people have already noticed a couple of wheel nuts loosing off even at this early stage.)

shon7 11th Apr 2012 17:17

Perhaps you should come out with another 61 point questionnaire

the_company_spy 11th Apr 2012 21:31

Shon7, perhaps you could eat your own $h!t.

Short_Circuit 12th Apr 2012 08:22

With the redundancies at Sydney Base on this coming Monday, I doubt many Int services will go anywhere near schedule, if at all...... :{

another superlame 12th Apr 2012 08:45

Maintenix on its own will cause a bloodbath. At the moment is only serves 12 aircraft and it struggles with those 12.
When it goes fleet wide, the network will come to a grinding halt through no fault of the maintenance staff. The system is cumbersome.

shon7 12th Apr 2012 08:57

It will do just fine. There will be some challenges which is inevitable with every transition.

Many airlines have done it and emerged stronger in the end.


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