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snakeslugger 31st Oct 2011 08:58

Porch Monkey is correct....Pacific Blue NZ has never operated to Bali or Phuket. Yes, they are generally Pacific Blue branded aircraft but have always been crewed by VB crew.

Voz1 31st Oct 2011 09:13

AH, thats my view, call it a democracy. I don't see the problem. Virgin are going to top up the T&C to match the DOM-EBA. What do you think is going to happen with the PB guys in the long term? Are we going to whinge and bitch if they fold them into the VA EBA, are we going to whinge and bitch if they dont? Get it! it's a tempory messure to get extra bums on seats, that would otherwise be lost. Im more than content to give JB the benefit of the doubt, after all his name is John not Bruce;)

ad-astra 31st Oct 2011 11:20

Always Inverted

Alas - you are as your name suggests.

Call signs and crew and operator can be very different.

DJ738 1st Nov 2011 02:37

Pacific Blue (New Zealand) has never operated to Bali or Phuket.

porch monkey 1st Nov 2011 02:41

Speak up, Always Inverted! I can't hear you! Oh, I'm sorry, you are! I see your head is firmly up your own arse! Edto isn't relevant, neither is your timeline. Please accept that what I and others stated is accurate. You obviously don't work there. PB crew have never operated DPS or HKT. As far as Honiara is concerned, VB did some Honiara, and Nandi for that matter, at the time of the GFC. Was handed back to PB a long time ago. And yes, VB did Port Moresby too. Also now done by PB. You're either fishing, or you have NFI. Don't need you to find out "specifics", several of those who have corrected you actually work there. Maybe you should check your sources as you mentioned. Making sure they still work at VA would be a good start.

On Guard 1st Nov 2011 06:02

The PB guys went to NZALPA and asked them to confirm the ok from AIPA/VIPA before undertaking this flying. I think we should be grateful that we have a great team culture and our Kiwi colleagues understand the line in the sand.

The guys at PB should be commended and thanked for 1. Their support and 2. Their integrity.

They were understandbly rather nervous about this whole thing.

It is a good thing that the majority of Virgin is supporting this also as it is PB doing us the favour NOT the other way around. If we do this right there will be more aircraft and promotion.

virginexcess 1st Nov 2011 06:11

This all seems as you would hope it to be.
  • Opportunity presents itself,
  • Company engages with 3 unions in 2 countries to try and avoid bad/over reaction from workforce.
  • Company pre-empts concerns with offer to not undercut local conditions from CEO.
  • Unions accept.
  • Company makes good on said opportunity and improves bottom line.
  • Unions demonstrate to CEO that workforce is willing to be open minded and flexible as long as reasonable protections put in place.


All good from where i sit.
:D:ok::D:ok:

porch monkey 1st Nov 2011 10:37

Yes, we finally have a management that wants to work with us to have a better future for the company. The least we can do is help them.:ok:

overhere 1st Nov 2011 10:53


VB did some Honiara, and Nandi for that matter, at the time of the GFC. Was handed back to PB a long time ago. And yes, VB did Port Moresby too. Also now done by PB. You're either fishing, or you have NFI.
BNE/HIR is now being operated again by VBA.

ad-astra 1st Nov 2011 19:46


....stand with JB and make VAus a better company than it is now
Correct...

1a sound asleep 2nd Nov 2011 14:19

I wouldn't worry they did a DJ9502 with VH-VPE 777 SYD-MEL Monday and despite all the stranded pax it flew with about 100 pax.

Things are back to normal and there is plenty of empty seats across all 4 carriers


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