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I also note they're in the RWC final!!

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It's actually AJ's fault that we lost the rugby last night, he didn't give enough box seat tickets to the pollies and as a result we were under supported.

Fleet for sale as Qantas cuts flights

So is the media incapable of checking ANY facts before they print a Qantas Press release?

Who would have thought?
 

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Sort of backs up Krem's previous post



To be fair, GT says some pretty good stuff as well..

Anyone able to supply the rego's of the "parked" aircraft?

I saw VH-TJF on the ABC News this evening and a quick Google search showed that it had been placed on the market for sale by 12 July 2011.

The same source also showed 763ER VH-OGE and 734 ZK-JTP for sale. Both from the same date and both by Qantas Airways Ltd, of course, rather than any entity from New Zealand for the latter... :hmm:

My thoughts being that it tends to add weight in favour of arguments that these "parked" airframes were due to be withdrawn anyway.

Maybe a smart journo will then be able to ask a question or two.

This is definitely a cover up this cancelling of flights because if anyone in the media was actually a journalist they would find that there are 1 - 2 new 737-800's coming into the mainline fleet a month for most of this year. I would say the total number of 737's is at worst the same number but probably a few extra airframes even after 4 being grounded. It is just a nice ploy to blame the engineers for something else. Meanwhile their 747's are having engine failures at an extraordinary rate because of a known problem which has a mod available to fix it....; Duty of Care???

hey Taildragger, can you please provide me any links you have found that show when aircraft were put up for sale?

There's at least 2 here, looks like they were advertised in July of this year.

737-400 For Sale or Lease on SpeedNews

2x 737-400 listed 12 July 2011
1 x 767-300ER listed 12 July 2011

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Taildragger67

I'm told that TJF and TJO positioned to Avalon for storage on 17 Oct.

Rgds

Steve,

rmm got in ahead of me, but that was where I saw them - speednews.com.

Also, 3 x 744s (-OJG, -OJH, -OJJ) are listed on planemart.com but there's no indication of when the listing went up - only when the airframes will be available (earliest being Sep '12).

Back to the 734s, MSN 24431 is VH-TJF and MSN 24441 is ZK-JTP. I also saw VH-TJO on the telly and tried to see if it is listed for sale anywhere by using its MSN (24440) but couldn't see it. It would however probably make sense, given its sequence in the line.

MSN 24531 on speednews is 763 VH-OGE is MSN 24531.

So all these cancellations - will they be quietly reversed following the incremental 73W deliveries? Anyone rostered onto any of the just-cancelled flight numbers in, say, a month or so?

What is the A330 delivery schedule compared to 767 retirements (as in, have they just 'grounded' a 767 only to have a new 330 rock up in the next few weeks)?

Anyone got any idea as to how close any of the 'grounded' airframes are to a C or D check? If so, the next question is, would such maint now normally be done in Aus, or overseas?


I'm not a spotter, rather I'm trying to see if a swifty is being pulled here, but I think I've out-anoraked myself today. :\

OGE is the next 767 to be up for sale,
OGF is sold and flying away today.

Remember, the 787 was to be replacing these 767's but they will not any time soon therefore extra 737-800 coming to fill the gap.

Another thing to look at in regards to the 767's are they going over for hours due to the fact they recently added C check type tasks to the A check's and now don't have the manpower to do them. Was supposedly done so they could reduce the C check going to BNE so they could do the JetStar 330 checks.

heh heh, a classic call :D

Td67, if you click on the 'Model' 747-438 link in the ad, it shows each of the 3 aircraft were listed on 7/5/2011 (That's 5th July 2011)

Thanks Trent for the tip.

Framer - I try!

Anyway - just getting back to it - can we identify:

- the airframes which were parked yesterday (we have VH-TJF and -TJO positively identified, thanks ABC for filling the screen with those rego's for a few secs);

- can we identify which of these are for sale (and therefore possible candidates for parking anyway - VH-TJF definitely is);

- can we identify which are close to an expensive hangar session (and therefore possible candidates for parking anyway);

- can we ascertain if any incoming 738s or A330s will pick up the 'cancelled' services as they incrementally arrive?

If 'yes' to any of the above, then my simple mind thinks that it may serve to undermine arguments that the parkings are on the basis of missed maintenance.

A 738 arrived either last night or this morning from SEA via HNL and NAN.

Fuel efficiency
 

From an article in the SMH today by 'Tony Webber, an ex-chief economist with Qantas Group, is managing director of Webber Quantitative Consulting'

You can post comments on this article at the above link.

Inbound: According to The Boeing Company QF were to receive 11, 737's this year, through to Sept.

Here, CASA Search -- CASA Aircraft Register
you can see the CASA rego details, VH-VZL, ZM, ZO, ZP, ZR, ZS, ZT, ZU, ZV & ZW.

Sorry, had this in the wrong thread.

Qantas fleet increases...

New 737-800's deliveries this year = 11

The Boeing Company

A380 deliveries 2011 = 5

3 delivered with 2 more to come in the 4th quarter.

A380 production list - Planes

A330 = 0

Airbus A330 Operators - Planespotters.net Just Aviation


Stale news...

Qantas' Boeing 737 aircraft fleet up for sale - Flights | hotels | frequent flyer | business class - Australian Business Traveller


All in all a pretty big increase in capacity this year for very few retirements/groundings. And in the year in which they said they were going to reduce capacity because of the economic downturn. :rolleyes: