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Could learn a thing or two from the French: Air France-KLM chief Pierre-Henri Gourgeon facing sack | The Australian
I also note they're in the RWC final!! S64 |
It's actually AJ's fault that we lost the rugby last night, he didn't give enough box seat tickets to the pollies and as a result we were under supported.
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Fleet for sale as Qantas cuts flights
So is the media incapable of checking ANY facts before they print a Qantas Press release? |
Who would have thought?
. Sort of backs up Krem's previous post To be fair, GT says some pretty good stuff as well.. |
Anyone able to supply the rego's of the "parked" aircraft?
I saw VH-TJF on the ABC News this evening and a quick Google search showed that it had been placed on the market for sale by 12 July 2011. The same source also showed 763ER VH-OGE and 734 ZK-JTP for sale. Both from the same date and both by Qantas Airways Ltd, of course, rather than any entity from New Zealand for the latter... :hmm: My thoughts being that it tends to add weight in favour of arguments that these "parked" airframes were due to be withdrawn anyway. Maybe a smart journo will then be able to ask a question or two. |
This is definitely a cover up this cancelling of flights because if anyone in the media was actually a journalist they would find that there are 1 - 2 new 737-800's coming into the mainline fleet a month for most of this year. I would say the total number of 737's is at worst the same number but probably a few extra airframes even after 4 being grounded. It is just a nice ploy to blame the engineers for something else. Meanwhile their 747's are having engine failures at an extraordinary rate because of a known problem which has a mod available to fix it....; Duty of Care???
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hey Taildragger, can you please provide me any links you have found that show when aircraft were put up for sale?
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There's at least 2 here, looks like they were advertised in July of this year.
737-400 For Sale or Lease on SpeedNews |
2x 737-400 listed 12 July 2011
1 x 767-300ER listed 12 July 2011 (click to enlarge) http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/1...pshot6o.th.png http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/7356/snapshot5p.th.png http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/1...pshot3u.th.png |
Taildragger67
I'm told that TJF and TJO positioned to Avalon for storage on 17 Oct. Rgds |
Steve,
rmm got in ahead of me, but that was where I saw them - speednews.com. Also, 3 x 744s (-OJG, -OJH, -OJJ) are listed on planemart.com but there's no indication of when the listing went up - only when the airframes will be available (earliest being Sep '12). Back to the 734s, MSN 24431 is VH-TJF and MSN 24441 is ZK-JTP. I also saw VH-TJO on the telly and tried to see if it is listed for sale anywhere by using its MSN (24440) but couldn't see it. It would however probably make sense, given its sequence in the line. MSN 24531 on speednews is 763 VH-OGE is MSN 24531. So all these cancellations - will they be quietly reversed following the incremental 73W deliveries? Anyone rostered onto any of the just-cancelled flight numbers in, say, a month or so? What is the A330 delivery schedule compared to 767 retirements (as in, have they just 'grounded' a 767 only to have a new 330 rock up in the next few weeks)? Anyone got any idea as to how close any of the 'grounded' airframes are to a C or D check? If so, the next question is, would such maint now normally be done in Aus, or overseas? I'm not a spotter, rather I'm trying to see if a swifty is being pulled here, but I think I've out-anoraked myself today. :\ |
OGE is the next 767 to be up for sale,
OGF is sold and flying away today. Remember, the 787 was to be replacing these 767's but they will not any time soon therefore extra 737-800 coming to fill the gap. |
Another thing to look at in regards to the 767's are they going over for hours due to the fact they recently added C check type tasks to the A check's and now don't have the manpower to do them. Was supposedly done so they could reduce the C check going to BNE so they could do the JetStar 330 checks.
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Also, 3 x 744s (-OJG, -OJH, -OJJ) are listed on planemart.com but there's no indication of when the listing went up - only when the airframes will be available (earliest being Sep '12). |
Thanks Trent for the tip.
Framer - I try! Anyway - just getting back to it - can we identify: - the airframes which were parked yesterday (we have VH-TJF and -TJO positively identified, thanks ABC for filling the screen with those rego's for a few secs); - can we identify which of these are for sale (and therefore possible candidates for parking anyway - VH-TJF definitely is); - can we identify which are close to an expensive hangar session (and therefore possible candidates for parking anyway); - can we ascertain if any incoming 738s or A330s will pick up the 'cancelled' services as they incrementally arrive? If 'yes' to any of the above, then my simple mind thinks that it may serve to undermine arguments that the parkings are on the basis of missed maintenance. |
A 738 arrived either last night or this morning from SEA via HNL and NAN.
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Fuel efficiency
Qantas international's higher costs are not because of less efficiency. More than one-third of its costs are fuel and aircraft depreciation. Qantas is generally more fuel efficient than other airlines because of its choice of aircraft and flight paths. And its aircraft procurement team is an excellent one, able to screw down the best deals on planes Read more: In it for the long haul You can post comments on this article at the above link. |
Inbound: According to The Boeing Company QF were to receive 11, 737's this year, through to Sept.
Here, CASA Search -- CASA Aircraft Register you can see the CASA rego details, VH-VZL, ZM, ZO, ZP, ZR, ZS, ZT, ZU, ZV & ZW. |
Sorry, had this in the wrong thread.
Qantas fleet increases... New 737-800's deliveries this year = 11 The Boeing Company A380 deliveries 2011 = 5 3 delivered with 2 more to come in the 4th quarter. A380 production list - Planes A330 = 0 Airbus A330 Operators - Planespotters.net Just Aviation Stale news... Qantas' Boeing 737 aircraft fleet up for sale - Flights | hotels | frequent flyer | business class - Australian Business Traveller All in all a pretty big increase in capacity this year for very few retirements/groundings. And in the year in which they said they were going to reduce capacity because of the economic downturn. :rolleyes: |
He lost me with this point...
Qantas is generally more fuel efficient than other airlines because of its choice of aircraft |
That's OK TALLESTPOPPY, I will accept your ignorance as the worst form of stupidity!
Qantas engineers gladly accepted a pay freeze in good faith during the SARS eppidemic in order to keep Qantas profitable and operational. We have been negotiating in good faith for many months with our CEO to no avail. There comes a point when talk gets you nowhere. Some advice, do some research, then make a comment.:ok: |
On the Qantas Facebook page today:
Today we welcome another brand new 737-800 to the Qantas fleet, but this one is even more special as it's the first to sport the new Boeing Sky Interior. It took off about an hour ago as QF610 (MEL-BNE). We bet her passengers are enjoying the flight Kalgoorlie (VH-VZT) - our first 737 with the Boeing Sky Interior So that replaces one of the 'grounded' aircraft .. :rolleyes: |
Joyce announced a 9 bil. dollar investment in 110 new A320's and to be quite frank I don't believe they will all end up in these minority owned offshore ventures like farQ or poQ or whatever they will be branded. What's the bet 99% of the new a/c end up with stars on the tail and covered in orange paint?
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Interesting to see that a couple of the airframes which were 'stored' 10 days ago, have rejoined the fleet.
I don't recall having seen any high-profile public announcements to that effect however. |
Don't get mad ...get even
Anyone have info on the cabin crew member supposedly fired for negatives comments made over Alan Joyce? F/A was "chatting" to a pax on a QF11..... who was "chewing the fat" re: future of Qantas. F/A dumped on AJ ......big time....saying (words to the effect) STOOGE, CHUMP, DOPE, UN-AUSTRALIAN etc etc.(can't argue with his logic:ok:) Pax(close friend of LG) arrived at LAX and called her direct. F/A.... "held out of service". Paxed home. Punted . You could argue that it was "hearsay" BUT this F/A had form and was in the cross hairs of the Goon Squad. Apparently he is a starter at the AGM tomorrow.:eek: |
On a lighter note, some wise words on Celebrity Apprentice last night.
If only it could have been directed to a different individual. You failed to deliver! You’re responsible for the whole team. Manager’s lead, they don’t control. They lead & people follow. They follow by example & they follow inspiration and strategy. They look to you when things go wrong, when things aren’t working out. Leadership is very important and I feel on this particular challenge you didn’t’ lead. Mark Bouris |
Police discontinue death threat probe
http://www.smh.com.au/national/qanta...1123-1ntpl.htm
Seems that the police investigation into those timely allegations has been discontinued. Why would that be if there was ever a credible threat that warranted front page headlines? It will be interesting to see how they spin this one now or will there be deafening silence. |
Link broken so it looks like silence.:hmm:
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Yes, but the damage has been done. Propaganda 101, put out an exaggerated claim, knowing full well that the it will be shown to be as such once investigated. An investigation being discontinued won't draw the same headlines as the "alleged death threat against CEO". The aim is to insert a a false meme to vilify a particular group in the gullible publics mind.
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All the unions should issue press releases pointing to this fact and asking Alan Joyce to apologise.
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new link here
Qantas death-threat probe ... dies The NSW Police have, without explanation, dropped their investigation into alleged death threats made against Qantas's chief executive Alan Joyce and other senior managers. Complaints from Qantas about threatening letters and emails led to police forming a taskforce during the escalating industrial dispute with unions representing long-haul pilots, aircraft engineers and ground crew including baggage handlers. But NSW Police have confirmed that Strike Force Barrine – made up of officers from Botany Bay Local Area Command – has decided not to continue the investigation. A police spokesman would not elaborate on the reasons that the investigation had ended. "As far as the investigation is concerned, it was alive and now it's not," he said. The Australian Federal Police have also confirmed that they were "not investigating any specific threats made against Qantas executives and employees". The alleged threats received widespread media coverage in early October, but unions questioned whether they were a "PR stunt" by the airline to win public support. Qantas contacted police after Mr Joyce received a threatening letter in May, which contained the name and address of the author. The police later deemed that the letter did not constitute a death threat, although the author was spoken to and the "matter finalised". Police were also notified on October 5 about an email sent to Mr Joyce which contained in its subject line the words "death threats". However, the body copy of the email did not use those words. Other matters referred to police included complaints that a Qantas employee had received a threatening letter on September 27 and several hang-up phone calls at their home. The taskforce also attempted to "confirm reports that were allegedly made to company security officers about malicious damage to vehicles parked in a car park". In early October as the bitter industrial dispute was escalating, Mr Joyce sent a memo to the airline's 35,000-strong workforce informing them that he had referred to police incidents whereby executives had "received menacing correspondence, including to their homes". The memo stated: "Those who are in the business of using threats, violence and intimidation to obtain their industrial ends should know this: these tactics are cowardly and deplorable. They will not work. Anyone who is caught will face the full consequences." Mr Joyce later said that Qantas decided to go public at the time because "the bullying and intimidation [of staff] seemed to be going to a new level". But police say the matter will go no further Read more: Qantas death-threat probe ... dies |
If the wallopers have stopped investigating does this mean that they believe they have no evidence of death threats?
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Wallopers stop investigating for lots of reasons, it doesn't mean there no threat. It can range from not enough evidence, to some one taking what was said out of context, to just PR bull. What is this, most likely a combination of all of the above.
Whilst death treats in industrial disputes are not unheard of, I would think pilots wouldn't go for it, though in my opinion the TWU and some of their cronies could. |
Let's step back and look at how this was presented on Sunrise
interesting when you look back... |
Whilst death treats in industrial disputes are not unheard of, I would think pilots wouldn't go for it, though in my opinion the TWU and some of their cronies could. |
My apoligies to the general rank and file, like the make up of a lot of groups, most of them are most likley resonable.
If I came across Tony Sheldon on fire and I had a full bladder I still wouldn't p!ss on him. Most of the heads of the traditional unions are no better than the people you are fighting against, two side of the same coin |
will the state govmint invoice QF for the costs of the police investigation? PR at the cost of the taxpayer...
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will the state govmint invoice QF for the costs of the police investigation? PR at the cost of the taxpayer... |
Mildly amusing
Everybody has probably seen it:
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