Icarus...

Too true mate....I think I have some photo's somewhere!!??? :)

Wont Cobham crew and operate any 717's that are based in Brisbane?

2020

Correct. Cobham will crew the 717 and subsequent C series operations with mainline ( on regional award) and network however crewing wont be announced until after the Sunnies EBA has been signed off.

Like I said, not many in Eastern/Sunnies care who crews the jet. Can't see the Sunnies EBA discussions getting bogged down in 'The Jet Clause'

Those who want to fly the jet will continue to go elsewhere :ok:

Just my two cents worth. Aren't Virgin starting the ATR runs in a few weeks. Competition for sunnies, maybe QF management are upgrading the services to fend off Virgin.

Radical thought I know; but is it possible that the decision to relocate considerable resources to capitalise on the BHP expansion in Moranbah MAY be unrelated to the Sunstate EBA ?

Makes sense to me, handing over the jet services to National Jet/Cobham. The contract is signed until 2017 (?) I believe, so why not use that resource rather than paying Alliance for charters? That, as JetA points out, frees up aircraft for the money making mining routes.

It's all a result of short staffing though, mostly from poor management decisions.

Also, I agree that the Sunnies 'Jet Clause' has nothing to do with it. It was a vain attempt at a dangling carrot from the last EBA.

With regards to improving services to counter the ATRs introduction, I think the recent move back to Max Cruise on the Q400 fleet might have something to do with that... Who would've thought - when you fly faster you get there quicker!

QLink
 

Qlink's short staffing is not going to get any better soon. What they require for the chance to fly Dash on 57k a year is over the top. A few guys that they flicked over the last few weeks now have jet jobs. Go figure that one.:ugh:

Vigi-one - thanks for highlighting that, you're right!

There's all sorts of reasons not to put the next regional jet on the Sunstate or Eastern AOC, double training, decimation of Dash experience (which is getting pretty thin as it is), and last of all they don't need to. Could even go to a new start-up?

Well of course the Company rejected them! They treat the Dash (especially the 400) as if it's the f:mad:ing space shuttle! :ugh:They're not hiring turboprop drivers, they're hiring astronauts. Long haul to Cloncurry anyone? :E

Fuel-Off :ok:

Jets smets
 

This has been the ultimate carrot for years in sunny Qld. Pretty much protected routes nil competition and a group of people who generally busted their asses to get it done.

What thanks do they get - notice big gap nothing!!!!!!!!!
NJS/Cobham operating the red tail originally 146 then 717 ( from impulse).
Impulse started with the puddle jumpers, grew up, bought out, AOC now Jetstar, aircraft released to NJS/Cobham. The farming out of inhouse business started long ago.

Once again pinned all hopes on an airframe in development - overgrown CRJ with whiz bang new geared fan engine (enclosed prop). Probably be like the Q400 engine only airframe in the world with it fitted.

So in reality if there is anybody in Sunnies or eastern who actually work for a living that believes jets are coming your way - then you need to be fitted for a straight jacket and booked into the padded room hotel.

Prepare for the shafting as the red tail gallah's don't bother warning you :*

Just got sent the latest Cobham EOI from a mate

• B717 Line First Officers – Brisbane Base
• B717 Line Captains – Brisbane Base
• B717 Check Captains – Brisbane Base
• Senior Base Pilot – Brisbane Base

Apparantly they are in final negotiations with Qantas.

Did your mate say "post it on the web?"

Unfortunately this kind of attitude is/has been rampant throughout pretty much all Australian regional airlines. :rolleyes: It has more to do with the small man syndrome of the owner/chief pilot/management than anything else. The rest of the world manages to fly around safely without treating each sector like mission to mars.

:D Qantaslink - Cobham Boeing 717 contract renewed for another 7+years untill 2018 new aircraft joining the fleet and new Brisbane base . Is this the way of the future at QF to subcontract the flying.

Correct, QF don't want any 1 pilot group to control too much of the 'Groups' flying.

Divide and conquer! :suspect:

The oldest B717 VH-NXI which was Impulse Airlines VH-IMP is over 10 years old now. We mite see QF replace the B717 with a new Regional Jet during the life of the new contract

Or a new operator, as the guys/gals of Mackay, Rocky, Canberra and the original Bris Vegas base can attest to. Contract or no, AA/QF always have had and always will have the option to sustitute other a/c on a route they deem to be no longer suitable for 717 ( or in the old days, 146 ) , IMO thats why QF/NJS have lasted so long, they love the flexibility. I would be very wary of upping stumps from the security of PER or DRW to move to BNE.

Foot note : 717 being sent to replace alliance F100s, QF now own an F100 operator that at the moment does'nt have the capacity, at the moment......

Nor do they have apparently RPT on their AOC, yet...

Do you think they will add more 717,s to QLD as time goes on?

Heard the other day a Canberra base could also be on the cards for

a 717 base.