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priapism 22nd Jun 2011 05:27

Australia's most trusted profession survey 2011
 
Pilots make 3rd , Paramedics come first.
Australia's Most Trusted Professions 2011 | Read our 2011 list of Australia's Most Trusted Professions. Did your profession make the cut?

priapism 22nd Jun 2011 05:33

I wish my remuneration reflected it though ! :*

bobhoover 22nd Jun 2011 05:36

I'll bet the paramedics and firefighters wish their pay reflected it also. However, the training required to achieve each occupations' pinnacle is far different though, particularly in relation to cost of training

fender 22nd Jun 2011 05:48

CEOs No. 37. Bwaaaaahhhh

priapism 22nd Jun 2011 05:58

bobhoover -
I am a paramedic - 9 years advanced life support - 3 years at university - salary including shift / public holiday rolled in $69,700. I earned more as a flight attendant 10 years ago. I'm not saying pilots are overpaid - on the contrary for the reason you have pointed out. I know what my commercial pilot best mate had to do to get where he is now. We just get crap money for what we do and the hours we put in doing it. I support the QF pilots 100%.
I note that sex workers rated higher than politicians. perhaps Joooolya could do the former part time and lift the rating a bit.

Howard Hughes 22nd Jun 2011 06:32


perhaps Joooolya could do the former part time and lift the rating a bit.
Thanks, now I will not be able to get that image of of my head!:yuk:

gobbledock 22nd Jun 2011 06:53

What number did CASA come in at ??

Wally Mk2 22nd Jun 2011 07:16

"HH" I was thinking the same thing, will have to do it with the lights off all the time now:E............eeeeeeeeeeeekkkkk

I've worked with para guys/gals they deserve the top spot & more money. These Paramedic professional are far more switched on than GP's:ok:

Loved the fact that Pollies, Journo's, real estate agents & car salespersons where at a similar level, near the bottom!:-)
Interesting cops where nowhere near the top, now that's a real worry!

As for pilots at No3? At least we where listed as a 'profession'

'gobb'...........in answer to yr question......... No 11 in disguise:-):E



Wmk2

teresa green 22nd Jun 2011 07:46

She could open "Boganville lodge" at night, and the boyfriend, no I had better stop there. AGGGGH!

waren9 22nd Jun 2011 08:40

Pilots 3
Cops 12

And who signs the stat decs?

FFS

zappalin 22nd Jun 2011 10:13


Thanks, now I will not be able to get that image of of my head!
I'm sure she would be able to 'negosiate' a good deal for all.

Teal 22nd Jun 2011 12:30

Funny...CEOs are only two spots above s*x workers....:hmm:


I'll bet the paramedics and firefighters wish their pay reflected it also...
Don't worry about the career firefighters (including airport firefighters). They are very well paid. With all their various loadings, allowances and overtime, on a fortnightly pay cycle some will earn more than their employer's CEO who might be responsible for a $600 million budget. Not bad for 4 days on and 4 days off, and nine weeks annual leave.

Jack Ranga 22nd Jun 2011 12:37

$69,700 x .7 (shift working allowance)= $48,790....... to be spat on, abused etc for saving lives. This countries values are seriously ******.

And then at EBA time having to beg for a 2.5% payrise.

Jack Ranga 22nd Jun 2011 12:39


will earn more than their employer's CEO who might be responsible for a $600 million budget.
Oh spare me please, what a crock of ****e :ugh:

Teal 22nd Jun 2011 13:06

Spare yourself - you wouldn't know Jack. The CEOs of the various fire services in Australia are only public servants - typical base salary of less than $230,000 pa. You can get that from an Annual Report. Read exactly what I said....some will earn more than their CEO in a fortnight. That's not the same as an annual income. I am talking about a good fortnight of loadings, overtime claims and allowances. That's straight from the mouth of somebody who processes their pays every day of the week. Why don't you download a recent 2010 EBA and do the sums?

kellykelpie 22nd Jun 2011 22:28

Does less pay = more trust in the public's eyes? I'm sure if paramedics earned 2 mill per year they wouldn't come in at number one.

Howard Hughes 22nd Jun 2011 22:44


Not bad for 4 days on and 4 days off, and nine weeks annual leave.
I have met Ambos in the bush who work four days on/four off, only problem is they are on call at night after their shifts and then on their days off! Sure they are making a mozza, but they can have it!:eek:

S70IP 22nd Jun 2011 23:44

Alot of the professions that polled down the bottom are subject to their personal life being scrutinized outside of their jobs.
I can think of a few pilots who if they had there personal lives scrutinized would result in the polls being down the bottom too. I guess when your life depends on someone doing their job correctly the public don't want to know such things. Ie paramedics, firemen, doctors, pilots.

gordonfvckingramsay 23rd Jun 2011 00:41


CEO who might be responsible for a $600 million budget
If we are boiling all this down to a purely dollar figure, consider this:

A small commuter (say a Metro or similar) Captain with an average of 15 passengers aboard per sector, doing 4 sectors a day, 5 days a week, 48 weeks a year. That equals 13800 pax per year. If you can put a value on a human life multiply it by 13800 and you have a figure for how much an average pilot is responsible for each year. That of course is the smaller end of the turboprop/jet transport spectrum.

I don't want more money, but a little less squeezing our profession into the non-skilled sector by some CEO would be nice. :8

Wally Mk2 23rd Jun 2011 00:59

I think these days CEO's are pedaling the myth that pilots are not professionals or more to the point being a pilot doesn't come under the professional banner.
In some ways I can see how this can be so in the eyes of those who know no better. You don't need any formal education (other than basic reading & writing skills) to end up at the pointy end of a jetliner. All you need is the money & a determination to be a pilot & put up with all the hassles along the way to the top. Even a motor mech had to do a trade. They too had to learn skills just as a pilot did via being taught with exams along the way, are these guys considered professionals? I don't believe so in the public's eyes although they too can have yr life in their hands.
A Dr? Well you don't even get a look in there unless you had top marks at school. We are fighting a battle to have pilots recognized as professionals not only in the public's eyes but to those very people who hold the highest position in our Co's, the CEO's.

To this end the likes of Joyce want our remuneration to reflect the above & their going about it in an ugly way.

'S70IP' that's a good way of looking at it. Pilots aren't under scrutiny much unless there's an incident etc hence we are close to the top of trusted people.


Wmk2


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