Australia's most trusted profession survey 2011
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Australia's most trusted profession survey 2011
Pilots make 3rd , Paramedics come first.
Australia's Most Trusted Professions 2011 | Read our 2011 list of Australia's Most Trusted Professions. Did your profession make the cut?
Australia's Most Trusted Professions 2011 | Read our 2011 list of Australia's Most Trusted Professions. Did your profession make the cut?
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I'll bet the paramedics and firefighters wish their pay reflected it also. However, the training required to achieve each occupations' pinnacle is far different though, particularly in relation to cost of training
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bobhoover -
I am a paramedic - 9 years advanced life support - 3 years at university - salary including shift / public holiday rolled in $69,700. I earned more as a flight attendant 10 years ago. I'm not saying pilots are overpaid - on the contrary for the reason you have pointed out. I know what my commercial pilot best mate had to do to get where he is now. We just get crap money for what we do and the hours we put in doing it. I support the QF pilots 100%.
I note that sex workers rated higher than politicians. perhaps Joooolya could do the former part time and lift the rating a bit.
I am a paramedic - 9 years advanced life support - 3 years at university - salary including shift / public holiday rolled in $69,700. I earned more as a flight attendant 10 years ago. I'm not saying pilots are overpaid - on the contrary for the reason you have pointed out. I know what my commercial pilot best mate had to do to get where he is now. We just get crap money for what we do and the hours we put in doing it. I support the QF pilots 100%.
I note that sex workers rated higher than politicians. perhaps Joooolya could do the former part time and lift the rating a bit.
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perhaps Joooolya could do the former part time and lift the rating a bit.
"HH" I was thinking the same thing, will have to do it with the lights off all the time now
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I've worked with para guys/gals they deserve the top spot & more money. These Paramedic professional are far more switched on than GP's
Loved the fact that Pollies, Journo's, real estate agents & car salespersons where at a similar level, near the bottom!:-)
Interesting cops where nowhere near the top, now that's a real worry!
As for pilots at No3? At least we where listed as a 'profession'
'gobb'...........in answer to yr question......... No 11 in disguise:-)
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............eeeeeeeeeeeekkkkkI've worked with para guys/gals they deserve the top spot & more money. These Paramedic professional are far more switched on than GP's
Loved the fact that Pollies, Journo's, real estate agents & car salespersons where at a similar level, near the bottom!:-)
Interesting cops where nowhere near the top, now that's a real worry!
As for pilots at No3? At least we where listed as a 'profession'
'gobb'...........in answer to yr question......... No 11 in disguise:-)
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Funny...CEOs are only two spots above s*x workers....
Don't worry about the career firefighters (including airport firefighters). They are very well paid. With all their various loadings, allowances and overtime, on a fortnightly pay cycle some will earn more than their employer's CEO who might be responsible for a $600 million budget. Not bad for 4 days on and 4 days off, and nine weeks annual leave.
I'll bet the paramedics and firefighters wish their pay reflected it also...
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$69,700 x .7 (shift working allowance)= $48,790....... to be spat on, abused etc for saving lives. This countries values are seriously ******.
And then at EBA time having to beg for a 2.5% payrise.
And then at EBA time having to beg for a 2.5% payrise.
Spare yourself - you wouldn't know Jack. The CEOs of the various fire services in Australia are only public servants - typical base salary of less than $230,000 pa. You can get that from an Annual Report. Read exactly what I said....some will earn more than their CEO in a fortnight. That's not the same as an annual income. I am talking about a good fortnight of loadings, overtime claims and allowances. That's straight from the mouth of somebody who processes their pays every day of the week. Why don't you download a recent 2010 EBA and do the sums?
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Not bad for 4 days on and 4 days off, and nine weeks annual leave.
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Alot of the professions that polled down the bottom are subject to their personal life being scrutinized outside of their jobs.
I can think of a few pilots who if they had there personal lives scrutinized would result in the polls being down the bottom too. I guess when your life depends on someone doing their job correctly the public don't want to know such things. Ie paramedics, firemen, doctors, pilots.
I can think of a few pilots who if they had there personal lives scrutinized would result in the polls being down the bottom too. I guess when your life depends on someone doing their job correctly the public don't want to know such things. Ie paramedics, firemen, doctors, pilots.
CEO who might be responsible for a $600 million budget
A small commuter (say a Metro or similar) Captain with an average of 15 passengers aboard per sector, doing 4 sectors a day, 5 days a week, 48 weeks a year. That equals 13800 pax per year. If you can put a value on a human life multiply it by 13800 and you have a figure for how much an average pilot is responsible for each year. That of course is the smaller end of the turboprop/jet transport spectrum.
I don't want more money, but a little less squeezing our profession into the non-skilled sector by some CEO would be nice.
I think these days CEO's are pedaling the myth that pilots are not professionals or more to the point being a pilot doesn't come under the professional banner.
In some ways I can see how this can be so in the eyes of those who know no better. You don't need any formal education (other than basic reading & writing skills) to end up at the pointy end of a jetliner. All you need is the money & a determination to be a pilot & put up with all the hassles along the way to the top. Even a motor mech had to do a trade. They too had to learn skills just as a pilot did via being taught with exams along the way, are these guys considered professionals? I don't believe so in the public's eyes although they too can have yr life in their hands.
A Dr? Well you don't even get a look in there unless you had top marks at school. We are fighting a battle to have pilots recognized as professionals not only in the public's eyes but to those very people who hold the highest position in our Co's, the CEO's.
To this end the likes of Joyce want our remuneration to reflect the above & their going about it in an ugly way.
'S70IP' that's a good way of looking at it. Pilots aren't under scrutiny much unless there's an incident etc hence we are close to the top of trusted people.
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In some ways I can see how this can be so in the eyes of those who know no better. You don't need any formal education (other than basic reading & writing skills) to end up at the pointy end of a jetliner. All you need is the money & a determination to be a pilot & put up with all the hassles along the way to the top. Even a motor mech had to do a trade. They too had to learn skills just as a pilot did via being taught with exams along the way, are these guys considered professionals? I don't believe so in the public's eyes although they too can have yr life in their hands.
A Dr? Well you don't even get a look in there unless you had top marks at school. We are fighting a battle to have pilots recognized as professionals not only in the public's eyes but to those very people who hold the highest position in our Co's, the CEO's.
To this end the likes of Joyce want our remuneration to reflect the above & their going about it in an ugly way.
'S70IP' that's a good way of looking at it. Pilots aren't under scrutiny much unless there's an incident etc hence we are close to the top of trusted people.
Wmk2