Joint Airline Industrial Action
It seems clear that QF/JQ and VA/VB have serious IR issues pending.
Any ideas so we, and more importantly the unions could get together to organise some legal co-ordinated industrial action? I don't necessarily vote for Labour, but it's never going to get any easier especially if we eventually get a government with harder IR policies. A bit hopeful for PPRUNE but I hope that we could generate some positive discussion and ideas. |
Wow just like 1989 all over again. I am sure a few thousand pilots would love to be out of a job. Legal or not I think it is dangerous.
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Dangerous - I agree. But what can we do to stop our T&C's fall apart.
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Packvalve,
Protected Industrial Action is only possible during EA negotiations at the permission of Fair Work Australia so joint action probably not possible.:( That said, if you were to help out by not flying on days off etc on extra flights to help out that would be appreciated.:E another superlame, read above, this will be "PROTECTED" industrial action like your brothers a few years ago.:ok: THIS IS NOT 1989!:ugh: |
Yea, I already prescribe to the "not working on days off" philosophy but apparently not everybody in my company does.
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I understood it as protected when I wrote. But protected or not you can never trust the greedy single minded ignoramus' they call managers.
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and VA/VB have serious IR issues pending. |
I understand John Borghetti has been admitted to hospital.Surgeons have unsuccessfully tried to chisel the grin off his face for a few weeks now without success.
He must be just lapping it up.:E |
Krumlov, are the V Australia guys "happy" are they? You must be speaking to a different bunch than I am. I'll assume you support the introduction of B scales also.
What's the word on the business class meals mate? Great work on the direction rebranding etc. I'm yet to be conviced of any improvement in conditions. Shiny badges and uniforms don't impress me. My jury is still out. I tend to call a spade a spade. |
Firstly, the OP said VA/VB and since VB is 950 pilots vs some considerably smaller number at VA my statement of OVERALL (ie not everyone) holds.
As for the meals...who cares? And as for the conditions I think they are fantastic. You're editing faster than I can keep up! :-) B scales what is it, what are the details? The reality is there is currently no "B scale" proposal so there is nothing to support or oppose! |
Krumlov you must have iron guts and a tolerance for above normal preservative use. I care about the meals, not being given business seats when paxing duty travel, what are the 330 fellas being paid again? It has improved a lot but don't get sucked in by the shiny lures. We still have a long way to go.
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Apologies, I try to avoid the multiple posts where I can.
Vaus mates tell me a nice B scale is to come for you and I for ANY seat changes. You will see it in your union notes. I think it's a fantastic job, possibly the best in Australia and I'm the first to cheer the company on or help out. However, I don't get star struck or caught up in waves of teenage euphoria. I think business class seating when empty and business class meals as raised by the leader when he started isn't too bad a deal for the unlimited extra free pilot goodwill I see around the place. Fair go. |
We still have a long way to go. P.S. As for the A330 I have no opinion. I will wait for the next EBA. |
I think business class seating when empty and business class meals as raised by the leader when he started isn't too bad a deal for the unlimited extra free pilot goodwill I see around the place. You will see it in your union notes. |
I understand John Borghetti has been admitted to hospital.Surgeons have unsuccessfully tried to chisel the grin off his face for a few weeks now without success. What is this about? |
Hmmm... My previous post disappeared!
you must have iron guts I care about... |
I understood it as protected when I wrote. But protected or not you can never trust the greedy single minded ignoramus' they call managers. |
which is over triple the average australian wage I didn't say anything about the current B737 Captains wage. You've coincidentally picked the very top earner for your comparison with the average Aussie wage. The average Aussie doesn't fork out 100k and decades of an apprenticeship in the scrub for a career/life that could end with one error or two bad sim rides. The average Aussie will just go down the road and get a new job if the current one closes. The average Aussie doesn't turn up to work 15-30 minutes early year on year out...need I go on. I'm wasting bandwidth and my own time. I read them but haven't seen anything about this. I prefer to focus on these big things and not worry too much about the "nice to haves". No mention of B scale. At VB we haven't even started yet! Being keen and positive is great, I'm the same and you'll find many a post to prove that. I suggest however looking at all sides of the argument. I to am in a great position but I don't ignore there are many in my company that are not. |
..and probably slightly more than triple the average responsibility. |
Suggest reading again. ...there are many in my company that are not. Seniority |
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