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Skynews 16th Mar 2011 22:23

If KRudd is to be believed, they are advising Australians to leave to reduce the load on the Japanese infrastructure not due to nuclear issues or danger to people due earthquake damage in Tokyo. His comments reflect that if there is no real purpose to be there, don't be there.

The Kelpie 16th Mar 2011 22:36

K Rudd is a polly and will be respecting the wishes of the Japanese Foreign Minister not wishing to create panic.

If it was for infrastructure reasons, Why would they extract rescue workers? Rescue Workers are the very people who are trained to deal with such things

Skynews 16th Mar 2011 22:55

I haven't seen any reports indicating they are recalling rescue teams, apart from ensuring they are clear of the "danger zone" which the Japanese have20km and the US NRC are advising their citizens should be 80 km.

Conflicting info a real problem. Even well respected international organizations are offering conflicting advice.

The Kelpie 16th Mar 2011 23:11

Re Rescue Teams

It has been announced but is going to be made more public over the next 24 hours.

40Deg STH 19th Mar 2011 19:50

Maybe its too many longhaul flights across the the pacific and up to Europe ( and i just got back from one and off to the US tomorrow). When I get back, I'm off to Tokyo to help with the recovery. My family support me as do my friends. I am wish more people would do the same.
When I see fellow crew make their comments I am ashamed!!!
I have friends in Japan and as a person, CANNOT let them fend for themselves. Its not about EBA's or how much I earn, its about HUMANS.
No more excuses. Next time there is a flood or fire, you want help, just think back to where you were for others.

breakfastburrito 19th Mar 2011 22:12

40Deg, I will give you the benefit of the doubt with the jetlag, but your post is bordering on a "rant", and appears to be unreasonable. I don't see people suggesting that we abandon people in Japan. Questions, quite legitimately need to be raised in the manner of assistance to endanger the fewest. I gave you the hint, when I asked about shuttles vs slip for Hong Kong based operators. Shuttles from numerous locations in Asia could accomplish the goal of getting people out of Tokyo, minimising the exposure of crew to potential radiation hazzards. It would appear that initially j* did not plan for this, causing a great deal of concern by the crew.

Now that both j* & qf are operating into Tokyo, as shuttles, why are you still re-posting about crew abandoning others? They aren't. Radiation exposure is a legitimate concern, particularly for those who may wish to have children in the future. With very little information or knowledge, and the possibility of being stuck in the city for an extended period of time why did j* put them in this position in the first place, when a multitude of alternatives existed? Cost. Is it the crew or the company that is the problem here? I don't see you posting any questions about j* (mis)management of this situation, you drop it all back on the crew.

40Deg STH 20th Mar 2011 06:17

bb, fair call. Just re read my post and your correct. Its just too many years of Pprune posters who are all about "me me me".
I'm close to the situation, as I have good friends with family there. Your right, I hope all goes well.
Maybe we should just send Julia and Kev up!! I would love to see that and throw in Bob H for good measure!
Remind me to get more sleep and not look at Pprune:p

And I thought I answered your question about turnarounds or overnights, they are only doing turnarounds now.

Advance 29th Mar 2011 05:39

Current Radiation levels in Chiba (Narita)
 
The FACTS are here;

http://eq.wide.ad.jp/files_en/110328...ty_1900_en.pdf

They are updated regularly and there is other information and the latest radiation levels by prefecture here;

Important Information from Japanese Government

Go down to "All Prefectures" to get the English language version and be aware that Narita airport is in Chiba prefecture.

You will find current radiation levels, whilst slightly elevated, (0.077 microsieverts per hour) are still much lower than many places in the world have each day every day and well within exposure limits for the year if you stayed there full time.

So if JQ crews are refusing to fly or overnight Narita then sack them; they are not behaving rationally at all. The actual flight itself each way will expose them to radiation equivalent to many days stopover in Narita.

breakfastburrito 29th Mar 2011 10:57

14 days since the thread was started, 9 since the last post, what do you hope to gain by attempting to revive this thread?

fender 29th Mar 2011 21:26

Advance, Who died and made you the expert.
There are conflicting bits of information coming from many sources and I for one would be taking the worst case scenario.
I can see it on my tombstone now,
"He gave his life for Jetstar, what a guy."

Keg 30th Mar 2011 08:24


So if JQ crews are refusing to fly or overnight Narita then sack them; they are not behaving rationally at all.
:rolleyes:

Tremors are still occurring thus disrupting operations at airports and slip hotels. Electricity is intermittent. Food supplies are intermittent. Many restaurants are closed. I suspect the issue that J* and QF management are more concerned about is well rested crews and not impacting on the Japanese recovery efforts.


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