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limitedrisk 15th Mar 2011 06:36

The flight out of Auckland to Goldcoast via Queenstown was cancelled due to lack of techcrew. A mate said he saw Simon Westaway reporting on NZ TV, stating the cancellation was due to pilots not coming in on their days off to cover sickness. So now it's a poor pilots fault who is having a day off!

Perhaps Mr Westaway the cancellation was due to lack of resources such as no one on standby to cover the pilot sickness. Perhaps a lack of resources? Perhaps an unwillingness to put the money into the business? Perhaps if you spent the money required to make it a legitamite operation it would no longer be viable?

Perhaps Mr Westaway you need to tell the truth.

teresa green 15th Mar 2011 06:42

I hope JQ does not slip either. My young bloke is going and I am dead set against it, and his mother is almost a hospital case. Double up your crews JQ and turn em around straight home. Think of your family fella's, think of your future. Its no longer safe. AIPA where the :mad: are you.

Capt Kremin 15th Mar 2011 06:49

AIPA is working on it. Expect an announcement presently.

Trent 972 15th Mar 2011 06:52

tg says - Quote teresa green

I tell ya, you don't need the AIPA, my missus makes em look like Alice in wonderland
We're all waiting for Mrs Green to sort it out.

Icarus2001 15th Mar 2011 06:56

OH & S is a funny thing...

Neglect to wear your hi vis joke vest and you are accused of putting people in danger.

but...

Operating to and overnighting in a city with 11 times the normal level of radiation is okay.

Guys this is a safety issue. In Australia we have government departments to deal with this stuff. Pick up the phone and ask some questions.

Your employer is required to provide you with a safe workplace at all times.

denabol 15th Mar 2011 07:00

According to the ABC reports and others the Japanese government has admitted that the early figures given for radiation levels outside the reactor complex were actually 1000 times higher than indicated because the press releases all put the symbol for micro sieverts after the numbers instead if milli sieverts.

It is now being officially described as harmful to health to be within 30 kilometres of the reactors. A cooling pond in reactor 4 is on fire after an earlier explosion, and No 2 also blew at at dawn. That's four reactors going bang.

Radiation levels are rising sharply near Tokyo, but not a threat to health, which apparently is official talk for run for your lives.

puff 15th Mar 2011 07:02

Why not just run them through Naha and overnight the crew there - just do a Naha-Tokyo-Naha shuttle?

I would not want to be anywhere near the place personally !

teresa green 15th Mar 2011 07:15

Trent, Mrs Green is ready to kill. Being a retired Nursing sister, she knows the consequences, I have already stopped her giving B and J a earful, and Old Abeles in 89 got a hearing from her, that he would have taken to his grave. Never stand in the way of a female when her family are threatened. And she is 50 kilos ringing wet.

EPIRB 15th Mar 2011 08:11

Interesting article here Red Alert: Radiation Rising and Heading South in Japan | STRATFOR

nitpicker330 15th Mar 2011 08:29

http://www.iaea.org/newscenter/news/...iupdate01.html

UnderneathTheRadar 15th Mar 2011 11:27

So what about the crew already in NRT?
 
Was there a J* crew slipping NRT already - what about them?

UTR

40Deg STH 15th Mar 2011 15:02

Pleasing to hear a common sense solution of KIX has come about. As tereasa said, a heavy crew would have worked too.
Good luck to all the pax arriving home to Japan to begin the huge job ahead, my thoughts are with them

Mr. Hat 16th Mar 2011 00:17

I thought I heard on the news that Air China aren't flying to Japan due to the radiation risk.

Always said Australia was a dictatorship in disguise. At least you know what you are getting in China!

Ken Borough 16th Mar 2011 01:27


A mate said he saw Simon Westaway reporting on NZ TV, stating the cancellation was due to pilots not coming in on their days off to cover sickness. So now it's a poor pilots fault who is having a day off!
What an appalling response! What does this goose (:yuk::yuk:) say about Jetstar's planning and rostering practices? Then again, perhaps they just operate by the seat of their pants. It's hard to believe that the travelling public have to listen to such cr@p on top of the inconvenience of not travelling when they thought they were.

nitpicker330 16th Mar 2011 06:30

CX have now stopped all overnights in NRT.

They were advised by Airbus/Boeing that any contaminated aircraft would be permanently stuffed!!

A37575 16th Mar 2011 12:00


don't get paid enuf to be a charity pilot
.
Every pilot has his price...

whatdouknow 16th Mar 2011 19:09

I am sure that worksafe laws in every state suggests that you have the legal right to refuse tasks that you believe are unsafe... just do not refuse any reasonable (safe) task.

then it is up to the government authority to make a decision, if you have some facts about the issue's actual safety, no inspector would rule against you.

I heard that the US Navy were 160kms offshore off Japan about 4 days ago and the instruments on their fleet measured Radioactive material above safe levels, they left the area as soon as it became apparent.

the company must provide a workplace that is as safe as practicable.

Black Condor 16th Mar 2011 20:59

The problem is that no one in the airline or anyone for that matter knows if the crew hotels in Narita or anywhere in Japan were damaged by the previous quakes as they suspect some buildings in Christchurch were back in Sept last year leading to their collapse this year in the subsequent quakes.

There is also the legal aspect that if injured would the airline have some get out of jail card because you knowingly and willingly accepted the duty to fly to Japan under the current circumstances?

You had the right to say no but you went anyway!

Good on those cabin crew who pulled the plug.

Then as someone also said the added risk of radiation not only of the immediate area (if that's not bad enough) but on the food that you are eating while in Japan.Who knows how or if the milk,meat,vegetables etc ..not to mention water has been affected.

If in 5 years time you contract some form of cancer how could you know or prove that it was as a result of exposure to some form of radiation while in a Japanese slip port?

I'm sure the airline would be doing their best to deny any responsibility.

73to91 16th Mar 2011 20:59

see that this mornings SMH (Thursday) report that QF are going via HKG Qantas flights to Tokyo will stop in Hong Kong | Radiation fears


Qantas is adding Hong Kong stopovers to six flights serving Tokyo's Narita Airport after an earthquake and nuclear-power plant emergency disrupted transport links in Japan.

Tokyo flights linking Sydney and Perth will stop in Hong Kong through to March 19, according to a statement on the airline's website. There are no plans to cancel any services, spokesman Simon Rushton said.

The airline added the stop so it could swap crews in Hong Kong as there are intermittent difficulties in transporting staff to hotels in Tokyo, Rushton said.

The move is a precautionary step to ensure that employees don't have to work double shifts on the 10-hour flights between Australia and Japan.

The Kelpie 16th Mar 2011 21:03

Well what about the Australian Government this morning advising Australian Citizens to get out and withdrawing their rescue teams?


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