Jetstar cadets grounded
 

Heard on the grapevine today that the checked to line jetstar cadets have been grounded UFN!!!!!

Interesting leading up to the next round of hearings at the senate!

I hope Jetstar is going to continue to pay them.

Is that due to the very heavy landing in the Gold Coast.

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The Kelpie

The Kelpie
 

Kelpie

Can you fill in the gaps?

No but intend to find out.

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The Kelpie

Must be a different reason!

MR stated at the Senate Inquiry he had complete faith in the J* Cadet program.

Really? Maybe just enough to pay back the bank.:uhoh:

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If true, then it will be great to see experienced guys sitting in the hold pool given a start date...hopefully on the Aussie EBA...

Put the champagne away guys I'm sure the BB AJ duo will find other ways.

Can somebody please enlighten me? Given that the scheme was only announced a few months ago I assumed that none of these guys could have been line checked already.

Does this also mean that there are a bunch of kids sitting on the ground at their flying school wondering what Jet Star is doing with their 'hard earned' cash?

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That is exactly the position.

Trying to find out if Oxford / CTC have suspended recruitment / training?

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The Kelpie

Does this affect all the cadets or only the ab-initio guys and girls?

The only cadets that are undertaking line training at the moment are graduates of the Advanced Cadet Program. If confirmed to be the case it is these that have been grounded.

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The Kelpie

Would part of the reason for grounding the cadets be, because the ops manual states. All initial intake pilots require: 1500hr total time, 500hr on multi-engine aircraft & 250hr PIC.

However saying this, there is a clues that states: In some circumstances the Chief Pilot may determine that a pilot is sufficiently qualified and experienced for recruitment with less than the qualifications and experience.

So, if all of this is stated in their ops manual and no other internal company memos have been released which overrides the ops manual, are Jetstar operating illegally?

This is just my two cents worth, and I would hazard a guess that they have put in steps to side step the ops manual and legally(not safely) operate the cadets in Australia.

Now, I'm not going the man I am going the ball. Having seen and talked to the cadets I personally believe the Jetstar cadet system is rubbish, and if Jetstar do require and cadet system then it should be modelled off say that of Qantas. Where after gaining you CPL you go off and fly for a regional for two years, then you come back to Qantas and fly as an SO.

Safe flying.


Shnee.

...or is it can't work in NZ because of min requirements and can't work in Aus because not being paid in accordance with Aus IR laws.

Suddenly they are grounded. Bet you that wasn't the plan.

Senator Xenophon you are spoiling the party with all this legal stuff!

Are the illegal overseas FA's next?

I haven't heard anything about this, but if it has happened I would think that it would be because of issues similar to those outlined by 'Mr Hat'. The cadets are all New Zealand employees and are 'based' in New Zealand but have been temporarily based in Australia due to the NZCAA saying 'no' to them flying here until they have 500 hours on line. Rumour I heard was that Jetstar were forging on with the cadet scheme despite misgivings from the NZ CAA as CASA had approved it, Jetstar knew talks were being held between CASA and NZCAA but carried on anyway until told they had to stop, I am guessing they have now been told to stop. :=

I'd say AH & Mr Hat are probably on the money.

I dont think J* Flt OPs would have pulled the cadets off line themselves, some other entity has told them to.

Whether that's QF safety, CASA or QF Legal, is yet to be disclosed.

Like I mentioned in another post M.R stated in the Senate Inquiry his complete faith in the cadet process.

MC

MR is a shiver waiting for a spine waiting to run up.

He will do or say whatever BB tells him too.

I think CASA should be looking at him and deciding if he is indeed a 'fit and proper person' to hold this office.

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The Kelpie

anyone confirm? ive heard its not true from a cadet thats on line now

Hold Pool - to someone in the know
 

So I've been in the hold pool since mid 2010. How many of us are there and is it time to move on? Is there a limit to the amount of time we can be in the pool before having to re-interview?

It's offically a problem with the dodgey NZ contract.

The checked to line cadets cannot operate in OZ until they have an OZ contract or are employed on the EBA.

Got this from a mate at JQ who looked up one of the cadets on rockape and saw that he was SOC.......

What the fark are these idiots doing at this sorry excuse for an airline???:mad::mad::mad::mad: