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flamingmoe 6th Jan 2011 10:19

7 years for Brisbane?? Tell him he's dreamin! Current lot of guys getting melbourne 737 are around 8yrs in the company, as for Brissy...I guess anything is possible around here, but I wouldn't expect a new 737 command there for a very long time. The base will not grow, and those that have commands there sren't likely to let them go!

Reality is, anyone joining now who would like a 737 command in the next 10 years, start making friends in Sydney!

Captain Sherm 6th Jan 2011 21:48

Mr Hat.....you just press Option and 5 together and you get infinity on your Mac

Hope this helps

Sherm

Skystar320 7th Jan 2011 08:53

Would be nice seeing a mix of ATR42/72 aircraft in the red livery!

Warped Wings 7th Jan 2011 09:13


7 years for Brisbane?? Tell him he's dreamin! Current lot of guys getting melbourne 737 are around 8yrs in the company, as for Brissy...I guess anything is possible around here, but I wouldn't expect a new 737 command there for a very long time. The base will not grow, and those that have commands there sren't likely to let them go!
All depends on the rate of A330 expansion I would say.

Mr. Hat 7th Jan 2011 09:38


Would be nice seeing a mix of ATR42/72 aircraft in the red livery!
It'll be in v australia colour if anything:yuk:

43Inches 7th Jan 2011 09:55


Would be nice seeing a mix of ATR42/72 aircraft in the red livery!
Maybe take a look at the history of the aircraft type before wanting one, good for the tropics and maybe northern states.

HomeJames 7th Jan 2011 12:37


Maybe take a look at the history of the aircraft type before wanting one, good for the tropics and maybe northern states.
43, I assume with the northern states comment, you refer to icing accidents involving the ATR series aircraft? Would you be so kind as to elaborate on that remark?

Tiger01 9th Jan 2011 06:52

Since Virgin is meant to be getting 'rid' of the E-170's. Does anyone know if Virgin has found a buyer for them as yet?

Skystar320 9th Jan 2011 07:23

The aircraft are owned by a leasing company - Jetscape, which are being offered for either sale or lease.

Goat Whisperer 9th Jan 2011 09:53

If the E170s were leased in, they would be sent on their way; Jetscape are acting as brokers for their sale.

Skystar320 9th Jan 2011 10:04


If the E170s were leased in, they would be sent on their way;
Not true...

You can just say from tommorow we no longer operate the EMB-170! You still have routes to fly, passengers to carry - you can't just switch off and ground them1

Howard Hughes 9th Jan 2011 10:07


NSW: AY, PMQ, CH( replacing ejets), DU, TW and WG
CB?

if the apply the 20% number they used to come up with the Ejet pay scale then Captains would be paid around $112000 plus allowances and getting 14 - 15 days per month with progression onto a jet within 3 years,
Where do I sign? Hang on a minute that would actually be a paycut!:}

bubble.head 9th Jan 2011 10:53

My belief is that Virgin will continue to grow in the right direction with the leadership of JB. Their fleet wil expand, may include a regional prop (Q400 or ATR). Given JB was at Qantas, he should know how much of a money making cow the Q400 is, it would be no brainer for him to not consider it replacing the E-jets.

Rex will continue to bleed pilots and struggle to staff their planes due to their poor pay and condition. Their cadets scheme will eventually dry up with the introduction of 1500 hours by CASA, and thus cries foul! More experienced crews will move on to better paying jobs from Virgin, Tiger and Jetstar.

Qantaslink, like Rex but could be in potential big trouble IF virgin decided to get some 400s to play and offer a CAREER progression into their 737s, A330 or the E-jets. I would not be surprise if majority of the pilot will jump ship.

Jetstar will continue to grow while Qantas will continue to shrink. They will only offer NZ or Singapore based for future employees. A few of their recent employed will realise how s*** of the deal they got but have no real way out until their contracts finish. Qantas' will loose business passenger to Virgin due to their incompetent management and awful new buisness class offering. AJ will further try to cut cost wherever he can except his paycheck. Employee become less engaged (Don't know whether that's still possible) than previously.

This of course is based on

F111 9th Jan 2011 23:05

Announcement has been made, Skywest is the winner and will operate 18 new turboprop aircraft for Virgin Blue. Looks like QLink and REX will have some competition with Skywest opening up bases on the East Coast.

Mr. Hat 9th Jan 2011 23:42

Mr. Hat to eat his hat..
 
Apologies goes to the 8 post veteran 1000 ft who said:


Virgin and Skywest will tie up and Skywest will be virgins turboprop arm.
The 1700 post Hat says:


They're already tied up and directing people off F50's directly onto 73's to the east coast. I can't see REX or XR becoming the turbo prop arm. They'll buy new aircraft and start from scratch
No idea.. guess pprune is all speculation but 1000ft either took a good guess or is awfully well informed! Well done:ok:

Feel free to provide any other predictions..lotto numbers etc..

We were all wrong on the dates though. This Borghetti fella does he actually go home and sleep? Insane work ethic!

XRlent320 10th Jan 2011 02:17

Well done Mr Hat,

At times I have found your posts offensive but after the post above my opinion of you has changed. Well done for admitting your errors and apologising.


The VB rumours have been floating around Skywest for a while now but credit to the Skywest guys and girls they have resisted temptation and kept them off this forum.

Skywest and VB both being listed on the ASX are subject to certain reporting rules so I dare say further information will be released soon.

Certainly a very exciting time at Skywest.

Mr. Hat 10th Jan 2011 03:35

No worries at all XR. Don't be offended by my comments! I don't mind a stir now and again! Its only prune.

GAFA 10th Jan 2011 03:51

The biggest loser out of this is REX, they will not be able to compete against two operators operating 70 seat aircraft.

F111 10th Jan 2011 06:06

I did tell everyone the numbers would be between 15 and 20 and that REX wouldn't be operating them, just didn't get the Skywest bit.

So what do the REX supports have to say now?

Mr. Hat 10th Jan 2011 06:18


So what do the REX supports have to say now?
Where do i apply?


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