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The Green Goblin 25th May 2011 02:30

I don't understand why they didn't just continue to DFW via SFO or LAX, like they do with JFK.

Then when they have the right aeroplanes they can launch DFW direct.

Muppets spring to mind!

alangirvan 25th May 2011 04:08

They did say, some years ago that Qantas was taken over by TAA Management. From the days when TAA introduced the Jetstream 31 on Queensland routes and found that they had to leave passenger bags behind (because that plane did not have enough space). TAA had to charter planes to follow the J31 to carry the bags.

Wonder if Qantas will charter Atlas or Polar to carry bags left behind at DFW?

qfguy 25th May 2011 17:49

It's not off to a good start. But that's what happens when the QF Airport Manager is a sales guy from QF LAX and has never worked in an airport or operational environment. And the Duty Manager is a young bloke who was a check-in agent from Hallmark in LAX.
:confused:

Wonderworld 26th May 2011 13:19

What does it matter who the ground staff at DFW are. They have nil impact on the payload issues with QF008.

1a sound asleep 29th May 2011 22:48

This morning QF8 ended up in Noumea. Before departing BNE was told it was diverting to AKL. Flight planned as usual but ended up stopping in NOU.

This is just an embrassment

dragon man 30th May 2011 00:31

I just found out that on the first service DFW/BNE that alot of American paxs were booked BNE/SYD domestically. They werent happy. Once that was sorted out they went to SYD on the 8 but their bags didnt. Thats what you get on the worlds best premium carrier!!!

1a sound asleep 31st May 2011 01:22

Qantas is assessing the operation its new Australia-Dallas, Texas, route after a jumbo jet ran low on fuel trying to make the non-stop leg to Brisbane yesterday and had to land on a Pacific island to fill up.
Pilots landed the Boeing 747-400ER in Noumea for an unscheduled pitstop after battling stronger than expected headwinds after leaving the US, a Qantas spokesman said.


Read more: Qantas Dallas-Brisbane 747 flight forced to land for more fuel

Mstr Caution 31st May 2011 01:26

And to handle the Qantas freight issue out of Dallas.

AA fly the freight Dallas to Honolulu, then on the J* A330 to Sydney.

dragon man 31st May 2011 02:42

Then why not have a daily 400 to HNL and remove Jetstar and the QANTAS 767? Would make a lot of sense to me.

IAW 31st May 2011 02:55

I agree with dragon man. Surely DFW-HNL-SYD makes more sense than DFW-BNE-SYD, given that reaching Brisbane will be marginal with strong headwinds.

Air travel is supposed to be about efficiency and convenience. Qantas won't find many repeat customers on this route if they keep having offloaded bags and two fuel stops on the way to Sydney.

Toruk Macto 31st May 2011 02:57

Whats wrong with the 777?

The Green Goblin 31st May 2011 02:59


Whats wrong with the 777?
The only thing wrong with the 777 is the fact Qantas don't have any :}

Toruk Macto 31st May 2011 03:01

Your Joking !

dragon man 31st May 2011 03:03

And cos they are so stupid they are not likely to get any. AJ says on Yahoo that the 787-9 should be doing it however im confused as its range is similar to the 400ER and the first ones Jetstar gets will have 310 seats and no lie flat J class seats. Wouldnt the punters love that.

73to91 31st May 2011 03:03


I don't understand why they didn't just continue to DFW via SFO or LAX, like they do with JFK
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Surely DFW-HNL-SYD makes more sense than DFW-BNE-SYD
There was also DFW-NAN (the Americans love Fiji) and then if there were any clever people left in QF, they could use the NAN-Oz services on Air Pacific or even that Jet* mob :{ but no easier to just have an unscheduled stop over.

DFW-PPT (the Americans love Tahiti) could have worked as well, maybe?

neville_nobody 31st May 2011 05:28

Flights to DFW is about feeding the hub. It's a one stop to anywhere in the USA/South America/Caribbean philosophy. Making it a one stop trip to DFW doesn't work as all the through traffic will be better off going through LAX or SFO as that will be quicker. DFW is not a bad strategy they just need the right aeroplane.

Ka.Boom 31st May 2011 05:38

Total Lack Of Talent
 
It is generally recognized in corporate Australia that Qantas Execs are the least talented and most poorly educated of any company in Australia.They are however creaming the big bucks .....for themselves.
Yes Joyce has a degree in applied maths which does not indicate that he can run an airline as the evidence clearly illustrates

Short_Circuit 31st May 2011 06:34


Whats wrong with the 777? The only thing wrong with the 777 is the fact Qantas don't have any :}
777 = 300 pax in 3 class config
748 = 450 in 3 class config
What is wrong with the 747-8
Qantas won't order them :}

alangirvan 1st Jun 2011 00:07

What is wrong with the 777? Somebody from Emirates said in this forum that the 777-200LR is the the only aircraft in their fleet that loses more money than their A340-500s.

For SYD-DFW-SYD the 777-300ER would have similar payload range issues to the 747-400ER

1a sound asleep 1st Jun 2011 00:11

Surely easiest solution is to stop in HNL when winds are an issue. A quick fuel and go in HNL would be fastest and cheapest fuel. Far better than anywhere else considering its not a daily diversion


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