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flyingfox 3rd Dec 2010 23:50

Road congestion.
 
Another great example of WAC not spending money on infrastructure is the intersection of Fauntleroy Ave. and Valentine Rd. (Bungana Ave.) This intersection can be a major holdup for people using the services of mining carriers along Valentine Road. At busy periods the traffic chaos here is laughable. The stream of private cars and taxis leaving the terminals cop the worst of it, with cars backed up for 600 metres waiting to leave the airport. With just a stopsign and a busy Fauntleroy Ave. the escape rate is low. A simple round-about could greatly assist the problem. Any action from WAC after years of this problem? Course not!! The issue of turning arrows where Fauntleroy Ave. meets Great Eastern Highway could be addressed by WAC in conjunction with Main Roads. Any action from WAC? Course not! They don't give a stuff. Only real estate deals get any attention from them without Government intervention. The occurrence of a head on collision of vehicles driven by desperate drivers looking for a gap in the oncomming traffic is only a matter of time. No doubt the announcement of the new terminal being ready in a few years time will be the excuse for further 'no action'. I note aviation 'expert' journo GT doesn't ever write articles about congestion at the airport. He just issues the PR press releases for WAC. The only infrastructure WAC has built along Valentine Rd. is cash-cow parking areas.

Hornet306 5th Dec 2010 04:06

I was talking to an airport engineer recently and he thought that Taxiway "C" could be converted into a parallel runway for F100/Bae146 and below aircraft without too much trouble. Surely that would solve the 2,2,3 minute landing limitation and ease departure queues?

Capn Bloggs 23rd Nov 2012 05:38

Troy's Da Man!
 
Third runway is five years away
Geoffrey Thomas Aviation Editor, The West Australian November 23, 2012, 4:57 am


Perth Airport has assured the State Government that it is working towards having a third runway operational by late 2017 to future-proof the State's economic development.

Treasurer and Transport Minister Troy Buswell said yesterday he had a constructive meeting with airport chairman David Crawford and chief executive Brad Geatches about building a third runway.

"We now have a timeline and clear performance checkpoints for us to monitor the progress of this runway," Mr Buswell said.

Mr Geatches agreed that the meeting had been constructive.

"Perth Airport is proceeding on a path of design and consultation that would, subject to agreements and approvals, see the third runway delivered by the end of 2017, at the earliest," Mr Geatches said.

Last month, Mr Buswell warned that if the airport did not fast-track the additional runway, the State's development would be impeded.

Over the past five years, passenger numbers through Perth Airport have grown 40 per cent to 12.6 million last year.

Plane movements climbed at a similar rate.

In its 2009 master plan the airport said it did not need to build a third - and second parallel - runway until 2029. "This is a significant bringing-forward of its plans," Mr Buswell said.

But Mr Buswell warned that as part of the process, it was essential that the airport and Airservices Australia adopt every measure available to reduce the area impacted by plane noise. Some estimates suggest that a reduction of 30 to 40 per cent or better of the area affected by noise can be achieved by adopting world best practices.

"This is extremely important and everything should be done to cut the noise," said Mr Buswell.

He said the airport would have concluded preliminary negotiations on the project with airlines by April. It would then spend $60 million on a two-year regulatory approval process that would include the environmental impact.

If approvals were received, construction would start in 2015 after approval from the airlines.

Last week Federal Transport Minister Anthony Albanese said he had made it known to Perth Airport that there was a need for more runway capacity.

BuzzBox 23rd Nov 2012 06:09

I note that Geatches' "we can build the third runway in five years" has now changed to "third runway delivered at the end of 2017, AT THE EARLIEST".

Frankly, I'll run naked down St George's Tce if they get the damn thing built in less than ten years.

h.o.t.a.s. 23rd Nov 2012 06:42

Well, whenever it's built it wont be anything like one of those flash new Irish runways Melbourne is getting:


"The east-west runway will be 3 kilometres long, 60 kilometres wide and 2 kilometres south of the current east-west runway."

Baillieu backs third runway - Yahoo!7 News

Nautilus Blue 23rd Nov 2012 06:54


"Perth Airport is proceeding on a path of design and consultation that would, subject to agreements and approvals, see the third runway delivered by the end of 2017, at the earliest," Mr Geatches said.
Escape clause inserted as part of the basic design concept I see.

Chimbu chuckles 23rd Nov 2012 06:57

$60 million on a 2 year regulatory/environment approval process?

How do these fckwits say that with a straight face?:mad:

flyingfox 23rd Nov 2012 07:17

The need is now, not five years away. Start building the b!@@$* thing!

ShiteRider 23rd Nov 2012 10:26

Can't wait to see the magic that WAC makes when they take over the Departure Management Program. That will be living the dream....

Capn Bloggs 22nd Mar 2013 07:51

It's all happening!
 
Glossy aviation liftout in The West today.

The market seems to have re-balanced. Only one QF jet in sight, lots of Virgin and Skywest 737s! :eek:

Can't see a long thin "road" to the east of the terminal... :{

http://i521.photobucket.com/albums/w...ps100027b5.jpg

compressor stall 22nd Mar 2013 08:48

I think that's because QF domestic is staying on the other side for now.

And yes, one terminal might be great but another runway would be even better.

ramius315 24th Mar 2013 06:42

A nice EK A380 though. :)

tecman 24th Mar 2013 13:33

You can always guarantee that EK get the best press in the West Australian. Doesn't matter whether it's GT mouthing the industry press releases or Scourfield the travel writer accentuating the positive. EK are OK, but I notice the 'informative' West never gets round to highlighting the chaos that is Dubai airport, nor highlighting its limitations for business travellers wanting something as simple as a shower at the lounge. It's Hicksville stuff.

scandistralian 24th Mar 2013 17:33

@Tecman..... Dubai Chaotic + Hicksville?!?! With no showers??!! Have you ever been to Dubai before? Seriously...:ugh::ugh::ugh:

@380. Perth a Redneck Hicksville?! Take it easy big fella...

tecman 24th Mar 2013 22:38

Err..yes, my point was that the uncritical, small town breathlessness from the West Australian was reminiscent of Hicksville.

I travel frequently, and often via Dubai. Dubai airport, with the crazy inbound security for transiting pax, plus the hoards mixing it in narrow, unorganized thoroughfares is indeed chaos. The EK lounges are big, always full, generally OK and the few showers they have are often partly out of action. And it's little better in the first class lounge, where I sometimes end up.

Sorry, SQ, MH and CX do it much better at their respective home bases.

Perth doesn't rate any positive points on my travel scale, I'm afraid.

BuzzBox 25th Mar 2013 08:01


I've been to Perth airport too and ... I think they're doing alright.
Hmm, you obviously haven't arrived at the PER Int terminal at 6.30am when 4-5 flights arrive within 30 minutes. The CIQ and baggage claim facilities are totally inadequate and the arrivals area is completely gridlocked. But hey, it's all about to get better, allegedly.

Capn Bloggs 25th Mar 2013 12:54


Better to work on the mentality of the inbred locals who could do with some driving lessons and pointers on road courtesy.
Yeh, stop trying to push in! :E

RENURPP 26th Mar 2013 00:06


Better to work on the mentality of the inbred locals
that pretty much covers it.
:D:D
:p:p
:E:E

Chronic Snoozer 29th Mar 2013 08:08

$500mil upgrade? Will that cut it? Trouble is the government will only throw just enough money at the embarrassment that is a Perth airport arrival. By the time its done it'll be overloaded again in 10 years.

That brochure insert in the West looks like a small mid-western airport in the US. Kinda like the Perth mentality. FFS the Tonkin Hwy needs to be fixed before anything....

Pontius 29th Mar 2013 09:02


FFS the Tonkin Hwy needs to be fixed before anything....
How can you say such a thing and malign such great design? Why, only the other day I saw nearly 6 car drivers managing to squeeze themselves into the right-hand lane at the traffic lights to turn into the international terminal road. Of course, the 7th car etc had to remain in the outer lane of the Tonkin Highway and block all the traffic behind them but think about it, 6!! cars able to turn without blocking the road. Now THAT is good design :ok:


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